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VB, Delphi, and C++

 
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 22, 2007 6:08 pm    Post subject: VB, Delphi, and C++ Reply with quote

I've been wondering why everyone doesn't like Visual Basic, why is Delphi so great? Does Delphi have a good language? Or what?...

And what about C++? Is that something i need to learn? Thanks in advance!

(Don't flame about VB, it's the only programming I'm slightly used to. I made a Runescape world switcher with it...)

EDIT:Oh and also, what's the best C++ compiler? (Sorry for all the questions, I'm a nub programmer..)
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 22, 2007 6:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you google C++ compiler the first one you get, is what is regarded as the best one. Also for VB, I'm not sure why ppl don't like it Neutral. Delphi seems to be popular because it has a neat layout to it.

C++ and Java seem to be the "active" or "big" computer languages today.

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PostPosted: Sat Jun 23, 2007 2:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

VB sucks... Its the easiest form for programming and you only need 3 line to make a calculator which calcs with *8 or whatever (like FlashCalc)

While with delphi (pretty much like Pascal) you get better programming experience and it can make even more things than visual basic. The layout for programs, not the program itself in VB usually gets better if your good to it but at the same time VB is slow.

Delphi makes "ok" designs depending on how good you are and how much you care about it. Delphi is at the same time alot faster than VB to open programs and such.

I would say start with delphi.

if you wanna go further than delphi, use C++. Never tried myself but heard its quite easy when you get startet and it can make wonderfull programs.
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 23, 2007 10:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

good question, not sure why no one likes vb i think its because all the highly ranked people in this forum use delphi so everyone thinks delphi is better.

edit: or they might just not like microsoft =P
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 23, 2007 10:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Delphi is better.

VB is only good if you want to create flash trainers and such. everything else is basicly better to make in delphi.
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 23, 2007 5:15 pm    Post subject: Delphi FTW Reply with quote

I have learned basic delphi and i looked into VB. Delphi is mostly designing forms and making certain things do well, basically certain things... VB is plain coding except for the form. Delphi can use .dlls and create .dlls but VB can only use them. Also, VB has lots of limits that make programmers want to smash their glasses but Delphi is free of them. The exes made by VB has a special encoding that the computer has to decode before launching them (thats why you need to download certain things from microsoft to make the runtimes work) but Delphi creates exes that the computer can interpret without a program. For example, VB is spanish and tries to tell the computer sumthing and the pc has to flip through a dictionary to find out the meanings so that takes longer as for Delphi, Delphi speaks plain english that the computer can understand clearly.

BTW I am not a stereotype! I just chose spanish at random and not to discriminate the language!
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 24, 2007 3:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Delphi is faster, and many people see speed as being essential.

VB is more simple, and can be learned faster.

C++ is, IMHO , outdated

C# is the way to go, It has almost all of the speed of C++ with all the functionality plus more.

I recommend Either c++ or c# for most purposes. As a bonus for learning c#, it was based almost exactly off of java, so learning one is almost the same as learning both (C++ and java are the two most used languages today, and c# is meant to replace c++).

BTW My primary language is Java, but it doesn't have the functionality needed for hacking, so despite being a big language, If you want to hack its not worth learning.
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 24, 2007 4:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Robin4286 wrote:
Delphi is faster, and many people see speed as being essential.

VB is more simple, and can be learned faster.

C++ is, IMHO , outdated

C# is the way to go, It has almost all of the speed of C++ with all the functionality plus more.

I recommend Either c++ or c# for most purposes. As a bonus for learning c#, it was based almost exactly off of java, so learning one is almost the same as learning both (C++ and java are the two most used languages today, and c# is meant to replace c++).

BTW My primary language is Java, but it doesn't have the functionality needed for hacking, so despite being a big language, If you want to hack its not worth learning.


All the speed!? Are you crazy! C++ is nowhere near outdated! If you ask me, C# is gonna go out of fashion before C++ does..
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 24, 2007 4:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

noz3001 wrote:
If you ask me, C# is gonna go out of fashion before C++ does..


Microsoft keeps pushing their .NET framework, and a lot people use Microsoft OSs.. who knows? In the future, it might be Windows Sharp!

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 25, 2007 12:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I dont use Delphi because it nevers works for me i might try and download it again and try it and i only use VB6 for Trainers for flash games.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 25, 2007 6:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I use VB and B, but im learning delphi
vb or b are great when u start to learn programming, because they r easy and fast to learn, if u "master" vb u can make pretty cool stuff

B = BASIC, first language i learned, simpler version of VB
B was popular in the 90's ;D and is very simple

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