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PostPosted: Thu Mar 15, 2007 12:25 am    Post subject: Bug with debugger? Reply with quote

everytime when the debugger is stopped, the game crash, is this a bug?

sry if it's been posted b4, but i cant find the related topic.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 15, 2007 4:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

whaty os do you use and what debugger options?
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 15, 2007 10:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

vista, no special option, just attach the debugger to get the assembly code, stop, go back to game and it crash.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 16, 2007 6:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

find out what accesses, write or reads?
If you use reads, try switching to accesses

Also, run ce in compatyibility mode with xp, and make it use debug registers. By default ce will detect vista as a crap os (usually windows me, 98 and 95) and disables some features that would crash you on those systems, but I believe vista is able to use debugregisters (of course, there's a reason it detects it as a crap os, so I might be wrong and vista won't support debugregisters)

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 19, 2007 9:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dark Byte wrote:
find out what accesses, write or reads?
If you use reads, try switching to accesses

Also, run ce in compatyibility mode with xp, and make it use debug registers. By default ce will detect vista as a crap os (usually windows me, 98 and 95) and disables some features that would crash you on those systems, but I believe vista is able to use debugregisters (of course, there's a reason it detects it as a crap os, so I might be wrong and vista won't support debugregisters)


Evidence: IDA Pro debugger can use Debug registers in vista. It can also read their values(unlike CE). Does it detect Vista as a crap OS because it has a setup like:

if OS == win xpsp2, winxpsp1, win2000 goto CE else crappy OS?(O yea t3h crappy batch file syntax[if that]).

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 19, 2007 9:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

what is debug register? sry, i'm a newbie. Embarassed

it's not something to do with vista, i figured out that if i run it as admin, there's really no diff from xp.

even in xp, the prog also crash. just tried it on the tutorial, it's quite random, sometime it crash, sometime not. Confused
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 20, 2007 7:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

CZ3R0C wrote:

if OS == win xpsp2, winxpsp1, win2000 goto CE else crappy OS?(O yea t3h crappy batch file syntax[if that]).


no, if OS >=win2000 enable settings, else disable, but it seems that the OS value retrieved is smaller

anyhow, run as admin (and xp compat mode) go to settings->code finder, and make sure "Use debug registers" is checked. (And make sure that prevent debugger detection is NOT checked)

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 26, 2007 12:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

that's the default option isn't it? i've not changed any options after installation.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 26, 2007 6:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

that is the default yes, but if you run it once not as a admin debug registers will be disabled automatically
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 26, 2007 7:58 pm    Post subject: ATF Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 27, 2007 6:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dark Byte wrote:
that is the default yes, but if you run it once not as a admin debug registers will be disabled automatically


You have to manipulate the source so it doessn't read Vista as a Newer Os but as Vista.

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 03, 2007 2:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

under vista debug register is disabled, i ran it with xp compatibility. sometimes the game still crash, though not always.
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