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xenowyaa
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 Posted: Tue Feb 20, 2024 4:00 pm Post subject: is there a way to preload code? |
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| So I've been enjoying making scripts for a little while and I've been having this issue, so when I use other peoples cheat tables they have a script that activates the whole table and each script works right away but when I make a small cheat table most of them don't work until I do a certain action in game, how can I make a script that will preload those AOB injection scripts so I don't have to do an action and so they can work right away?
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| Posted: Tue Feb 20, 2024 4:27 pm Post subject: |
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| You can create an injector or hard-coded patch, but typically, code that requires pre-action is usually the result of using injection points that 'write' to code in lieu of 'accessing' code. When accessing code, you can utilize 'read' instructions that may not require a write (action).
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| Posted: Tue Feb 20, 2024 4:30 pm Post subject: |
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All code injections take place immediately. The game must actually run the original code for your code injection to do anything.
When you look at the "Find out what instructions access this address" window, some instructions pop up immediately and continuously access the value (the count keeps increasing). Other instructions only pop up when you do certain actions: e.g. for money, maybe buying something or opening your inventory makes certain instructions access your money. In such cases, the game is only running that code in that specific circumstance, and if you inject code there, your code will only be run in that specific circumstance too.
If you don't like that, try using a different injection point. Specifically one that continuously accesses the address you want. Make sure it doesn't access any other addresses.
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| Posted: Tue Feb 20, 2024 4:47 pm Post subject: |
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| ParkourPenguin wrote: | All code injections take place immediately. The game must actually run the original code for your code injection to do anything.
When you look at the "Find out what instructions access this address" window, some instructions pop up immediately and continuously access the value (the count keeps increasing). Other instructions only pop up when you do certain actions: e.g. for money, maybe buying something or opening your inventory makes certain instructions access your money. In such cases, the game is only running that code in that specific circumstance, and if you inject code there, your code will only be run in that specific circumstance too.
If you don't like that, try using a different injection point. Specifically one that continuously accesses the address you want. Make sure it doesn't access any other addresses. |
oh that makes sense thanks for explaining that clearly, I know you had said that my code will only run when in a specific circumstance but, is there a slight possibility I can create a script that will run that code even when that certain action isn't made? cause as I've mentioned before I've seen other cheat table creators make a script that makes all scripts in that table ready to use with no need to do certain actions
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| Posted: Tue Feb 20, 2024 4:56 pm Post subject: |
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| xenowyaa wrote: | | is there a slight possibility I can create a script that will run that code even when that certain action isn't made? |
-Yes, but it probably isn't necessary. Just use an injection point that is being accessed constantly.
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| Posted: Tue Feb 20, 2024 5:19 pm Post subject: |
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Technically yes, but if you had the information required to do that, you probably wouldn't need to use a code injection in the first place. e.g. if you're using a code injection to get an address, a pointer to the address would work just as well.
The other cheat table creators probably use better injection points.
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| Posted: Tue Feb 20, 2024 7:03 pm Post subject: |
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| ParkourPenguin wrote: | Technically yes, but if you had the information required to do that, you probably wouldn't need to use a code injection in the first place. e.g. if you're using a code injection to get an address, a pointer to the address would work just as well.
The other cheat table creators probably use better injection points. |
if you don't mind explaining how would I go about finding better injection points?
like I know how to see what writes/accesses instructions/address but lets say I did find something that constantly accesses my address, what would I do? do I just make an auto-assembled AOB injection script and tweak the code section? or a different template? (I want this to work every time the game is loaded up)
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| Posted: Tue Feb 20, 2024 8:53 pm Post subject: |
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| xenowyaa wrote: | | lets say I did find something that constantly accesses my address, what would I do? |
1) Check to make sure it doesn't access other addresses (right click in disassembler -> Find out what addresses this instruction accesses)
2) Inject there instead
Copying and pasting the injected code for some other injection point isn't a good idea. You'll probably need to change at least the original code, and maybe your code too. e.g. use a different register
If you're confused, just throw out your old work and start again at this new injection point
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| xenowyaa wrote: | | if you don't mind explaining how would I go about finding better injection points? |
-It is poor etiquette to ignore people that go out of their way to try to help. It creates a bad climate and discourages others to want to help at all.
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| Posted: Tue Feb 20, 2024 9:54 pm Post subject: |
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| ++METHOS wrote: | | xenowyaa wrote: | | if you don't mind explaining how would I go about finding better injection points? |
-It is poor etiquette to ignore people that go out of their way to try to help. It creates a bad climate and discourages others to want to help at all. |
hey sorry man I didn't mean to ignore your comments, I actually wrote a reply earlier then for some reason it asked me to sign back into the forum and it completely erased my response, please forgive me for that it was not my intent to brush you off that way, your responses were very helpful and I am very appreciative of you taking time out of your day to help me a stranger on the internet with a problem, please don't take it as disrespect as that was not my goal I'm just here looking to solve an issue, forgive me if I came off ignorant.
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| Posted: Wed Feb 21, 2024 1:04 am Post subject: |
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| ParkourPenguin wrote: | | xenowyaa wrote: | | lets say I did find something that constantly accesses my address, what would I do? |
1) Check to make sure it doesn't access other addresses (right click in disassembler -> Find out what addresses this instruction accesses)
2) Inject there instead
Copying and pasting the injected code for some other injection point isn't a good idea. You'll probably need to change at least the original code, and maybe your code too. e.g. use a different register
If you're confused, just throw out your old work and start again at this new injection point |
here's the issue I've ran into, you said find an address that always accesses my instruction but how could i modify that without it crashing? idk what to do i cant just nop it cause since its always running it will crash any tips?
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| Posted: Wed Feb 21, 2024 1:37 am Post subject: |
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What is your code injection even doing? If you're just replacing an instruction with nops, then you have to use the original injection point. Such a script "not working until you do a certain action" isn't even a problem.
The only time you're at liberty to choose which injection point you want is when you only want an instruction that accesses a certain address- nothing else matters. e.g. an "injection copy" script that copies an address (an alternative to pointers).
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