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StarfireTBT
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 Posted: Sun Jun 07, 2020 9:53 am Post subject: Tutorial needed |
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I see cheat engine has built in tutorials for using cheat engine. Can someone make another for hacking values that won't change.
I have been reading lots of posts about values that won't change and watching videos about it since I have a similar issue with a game. Yes it's an offline game, I can find the display value but I can't change it.
I have been able to follow the suggestions by finding the value, finding what writes to the value using the VEH debugger or else the game crashes, showing the disassembler, and then I get lost and don't know how to find the code I want. It's here in the videos that people start using words I don't understand and I can't tell from looking at all the codes in the disassembler what each code does.
I have tried replacing the code to keep it from changing but that crashes the game.
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Csimbi
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| Posted: Mon Jun 08, 2020 4:35 am Post subject: Re: Tutorial needed |
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| StarfireTBT wrote: | I can find the display value but I can't change it.
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You found the wrong value then - it's called a display value because it's not used for anything else and thus, changing it does not do squat.
You need to find the code that puts the value there in the first place, and backtrack the code to the data source.
DB might add a tutorial step for this - or not.
Such tutorial could force you to learn about stack tracing.
You make it too easy: people won't learn what they need to.
You make it too hard: people won't be able to complete it on their own (defeats the purpose).
My take on it: it would not be very useful because the 'data source' could be very different in each game.
Up to DB.
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StarfireTBT
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| Posted: Tue Jun 09, 2020 3:51 pm Post subject: |
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Then is there a recommended place to learn about the disassembler? I've been able to backtrack the display value to the disassembler but I see lot's and lots of code. Is there a list describing what the opcode designations mean? Maybe if I know what each code in the disassembler does I might figure it out. I saw in some videos people talking about I think trackers but I got lost in their lingual.
I am trying to find a time limit on a game that gives you a limited amount of time. I hate being rushed and just want to enjoy the game. I find the time displayed but every time I change it it changes back.
I have tried to find the code that affects the displayed time by using an unknown initial value and searching for both value gained and value lost on each value type including all but can't find anything but the display value.
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Csimbi
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| Posted: Wed Jun 10, 2020 12:37 am Post subject: |
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There is a quite a learning curve, yes, but nobody is going to spoon-feed you what you need.
You need to do your own research and learn by doing so.
The good new is, there are tutorials for most things, just search.
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