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Voodoox · How do I cheat? Reputation: 0 Joined: 13 Aug 2016 Posts: 4

Hello, I've been messing with this for the past 8 hours. I cant seem to get it to work.

I've Found addresses and offsets for 2 levels, going to the third I'm hitting a brick wall, please help.

Attaching Picture. I figured the offset was 34. But it doesn't seem to work.

LastExceed · Posted: Sat Aug 13, 2016 8:16 am Post subject:

I never understood the debugger method either, I'd recommend to just use the pointerscanner instead. Super easy to use and way faster.

Zanzer · Posted: Sat Aug 13, 2016 8:33 am Post subject:

Read the little note at the bottom of the popup. The values displayed are AFTER the instruction executes.
Since this instruction uses and overwrites the value of EDX, you need the prior value.

Voodoox · How do I cheat? Reputation: 0 Joined: 13 Aug 2016 Posts: 4

Zanzer · Posted: Sat Aug 13, 2016 11:48 am Post subject:

Doing pointer scans manually, you may still end up with tons of possible addresses.

When using the automated pointer scanner, it's okay if you're left with millions of pointers.
As long as that first pointer continues working when you reload the game and switch computers, it works.
The rest of the millions of pointers may all work as well. Just pick one and use it until it stops working.

mgr.inz.Player · Posted: Sat Aug 13, 2016 12:20 pm Post subject:

You can tick "show advanced", then tick:
- "first element of pointer must point to module"
- "no looping"
- "pointer must end with specific offset" and use C as ending (last) offset.

Because opcode you found has [edx+esi*4+C] and we see ESI value (it is 0000000A ), you can try this ending offset too: 34 (which is A*4+C)

- "maximum offset value" - there's no perfect value, sometimes 2047 is enough, I do not recommend value bigger than 8191 (I sometimes use bigger offset, but only when I have base address)

- "max level" - also, there's no perfect value, try with level 3, then 4, then five (do not recommend level bigger than 7)

Do "smart" pointer re-scans. And than means:
- load game save from the very beginning
- or move to different map
- use different character
- try sharing PTR files (compressed with winrar or 7zip) here on CE forum, send to any file sharing service, then give the link. Also give your exact game version.

For example, for "Borderlands 2" game, I did pointerscanning (reply to user "Match") with max level 7, ending offsets 5DC (one before last), 1BC (last one) and "first element of pointer must point to module" checked. Then after about six rescans (map changing, creating new character, Windows rebooting, etc) about 83 pointers left. But it is not enough, I wanted more stable pointers. I posted PTR files here on forum. User with nickname "Kryptos1018" rescanned it for me on his machine, boom, 16 pointers left. Took the first one in the list (link)

That way I got this pointer: [[[[[[base]+40]+190]+6A4]+68]+5DC]+1BC
And it worked for three years.

Probably you are curious how we get those 5DC, 1BC. Those were most common ending offsets for low level pointers (level 4 and 5) which stayed after second or third rescan, but disappeared after fourth.

PS:
If your game is using Lua, Mono or .NET. Give up. You will never find working multilevel pointer.

akumakuja28 · Posted: Sat Aug 13, 2016 10:04 pm Post subject:

Why dont you just do an AOB injection after the cmp edx,00.

As the code thr is a "rolling instruction" or shared instruction.

Or spend an really long time never tracking a pointer that works consistently. Pointers on scenarios like these rarely work well.

Voodoox · How do I cheat? Reputation: 0 Joined: 13 Aug 2016 Posts: 4

mgr.inz.Player · Posted: Sun Aug 14, 2016 2:50 am Post subject:

You got many things wrong.

To make it clear:
- in CE main window, at the bottom, it is addresslist
- to add new entry to that list you double click entry in foundlist (at the top left in main window)
- or you click "add address manually"

In fact, entries in address list are "memory records".
"memory records" can be: "addresses", "pointers" (multilevel pointers), "scripts" (autoassemble scripts), "headers"

When you add "pointer", you build it from bottom to top. See "memory record, pointer" picture.

Offset you calculate based on data from "extra info", this offset is the "last offset" of (multilevel) pointer, see second picture.

If the game you are trying to hack is popular single player game, I think I can help you, I have a friend with many games on Steam and he shares his library via "family share".

So, if and only if it is a SP game, reply to message I will send you (check your PM box).

chem0ne · Posted: Sun Aug 14, 2016 11:58 am Post subject:

Voodoox · How do I cheat? Reputation: 0 Joined: 13 Aug 2016 Posts: 4

akumakuja28 · Posted: Sun Aug 14, 2016 9:41 pm Post subject:

Use

mgr.inz.Player · Posted: Mon Aug 15, 2016 3:34 am Post subject:

@Voodoox, yesterday I sent you PM...