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Posted: Sat Jun 04, 2016 5:31 am Post subject: The champ is dead, RIP
From comrade Zaynab: "We submit only to the will of Allah. A reminder to the islamophobes who call themselves panAfricanists: Muhammed Ali IS a Muslim and so is Malcolm X. I see through you too and how you try to separate these men from their faith that provided them with the inner strength and resilience they needed to stand up against racial oppression and injustice. They are Black and Muslim.
May Allah bless you both brave brothers."
More to do with the religious aspect of it, nothing about disrespecting the dead, not that there's anything really wrong with that either.
Missing the point as you travel in the rift of white privilege
There was an erasure of Muslims and the black community in general. We are already losing our culture, our religion, etc.
It's a post colonial thing.
أخـي do not think we will lose our religion. Allah has promised the contrary, in the end we will prevail.
[9:33] Surat At-Tawbah (The Repentence) - سورة التوبة
هُوَ الَّذِي أَرْسَلَ رَسُولَهُ بِالْهُدَى وَدِينِ الْحَقِّ لِيُظْهِرَهُ عَلَى الدِّينِ كُلِّهِ وَلَوْ كَرِهَ الْمُشْرِكُونَ
He it is Who hath sent His messenger with the guidance and the Religion of Truth, that He may cause it to prevail over all religion, however much the idolaters may be averse.
but i begrudgingly agree with you, and sadly acknowledge the truth in your statement.
It's still rhetorical, how do you suppose it isn't? Who gives a shit what faith he was and why should I care now that he's dead. idgaf about the religion of famous people. Lmao at "the people who have any understanding care", might as well say 'Good people care" with the heavy-handedness.
It's still rhetorical, how do you suppose it isn't? Who gives a shit what faith he was and why should I care now that he's dead. idgaf about the religion of famous people. Lmao at "the people who have any understanding care", might as well say 'Good people care" with the heavy-handedness.
if it's still rhetorical you wouldn't have answered yourself.
who gives a shit what faith he is? again, people who understand the subject matter. check your privilege
it is completely unsurprising you'd be blind to Ali but would vote for a draft dodging drumpf; a coward and bigot with no understanding of empathy or the world. that you'd vote for someone who dodges the draft out of failure to stand for their own conviction and beliefs, and simultaneously you manage and find time to traduce and marginalise who fight an immoral regime through unparalleled comparison; firm and steadfast in practicing justice and staying true.
this comparison relates self-importance vs. virtuous character; and your choices a portrait of you.
and for a third time, the people who care are the people who have ANY understanding. you have already shown to not understand religion or the language of faith; of course you will not understand a great man's values. and not just the values of a great man, but of men of the world over, and you definitely do not understand the role of which religion has to interplay, in the life and decisions of & between men & the foundation of which the great uphold, lay, and illustrate. you fail to appreciate a blessed example, just as you would refute a miracle before your very eyes.
just as you oppress his religious views, and suppress recognition of the life achievements & debts society owes to both his religion, and the actions he took by standing upon the principles he believed in. white oppression to the point of dismissing the message before it is even conveyed. completely unnecessary on your behalf.
Why should they ask me to put on a uniform and go 10,000 miles from home and drop bombs and bullets on brown people in Vietnam while so-called Negro people in Louisville are treated like dogs and denied simple human rights?
No, I'm not going 10,000 miles from home to help murder and burn another poor nation simply to continue the domination of white slave masters of the darker people the world over. This is the day when such evils must come to an end.
I have been warned that to take such a stand would cost me millions of dollars. But I have said it once and I will say it again. The real enemy of my people is here.
I will not disgrace my religion, my people or myself by becoming a tool to enslave those who are fighting for their own justice, freedom and equality.
If I thought the war was going to bring freedom and equality to 22 million of my people they wouldn't have to draft me, I'd join tomorrow.
I have nothing to lose by standing up for my beliefs. So I'll go to jail, so what? We've been in jail for 400 years.
All you white boys are breaking your necks to get to Switzerland and Canada and London. I’m not gonna help nobody get something the negroes don’t have. If I’m gonna die now, I’ll die right here fighting you. You my enemy. My enemies are white people, not Vietcongs, or Chinese or Japanese. You my opposer, when I want freedom. You my opposer, when I want justice. You my opposer, when I want equality. You won’t even stand up for me in America for my religious beliefs and you want me to go somewhere and fight, but you won’t even stand up for me here at home.
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Posted: Sun Jun 05, 2016 10:34 am Post subject:
Holy shit, you are not oppressed. Is this why you became muslim? To play victim? This is the most pathetic thing I've seen you write in a while, please grow a pair of balls and join the real world instead of pretending that the "big, evil, white man" is keeping you down. Have you been drinking tumblr kool-aid or something? "Check your privilege" is cringey as fuck. If you think you're being oppressed in your comfortable, air-conditioned house in Florida where you're able to shitpost all you'd like and apply to get welfare because you don't want to work for a living, then you have a very, very distorted view of what oppression is. You don't know true oppression.
Apparently, in your worldview, if I don't really care about this man, which I don't, I am "oppressing his religion" (lmao?). The fact that you just throw out the word oppression like that is how I know you don't know what it really means. If you think otherwise, explain to me the connection between my apathy towards the death of another person in the world and the oppression of that person's religion.
Or don't, and just keep saying everything is the white man's fault, and you are oppressed, and all of your failings are because society is going to keep you down and if only the white man wasn't so evil then maybe you would have a shot, but you won't because "oppression".
It's still a rhetorical question, by the way, I don't know how I can make that any clearer. I can't understand it for you, but do you honestly think I was saying "Roll call of people who care about this" vs "This is not a big deal"?
Holy shit, you are not oppressed. Is this why you became muslim? To play victim? This is the most pathetic thing I've seen you write in a while, please grow a pair of balls and join the real world instead of pretending that the "big, evil, white man" is keeping you down. Have you been drinking tumblr kool-aid or something? "Check your privilege" is cringey as fuck. If you think you're being oppressed in your comfortable, air-conditioned house in Florida where you're able to shitpost all you'd like and apply to get welfare because you don't want to work for a living, then you have a very, very distorted view of what oppression is. You don't know true oppression.
Apparently, in your worldview, if I don't really care about this man, which I don't, I am "oppressing his religion" (lmao?). The fact that you just throw out the word oppression like that is how I know you don't know what it really means. If you think otherwise, explain to me the connection between my apathy towards the death of another person in the world and the oppression of that person's religion.
Or don't, and just keep saying everything is the white man's fault, and you are oppressed, and all of your failings are because society is going to keep you down and if only the white man wasn't so evil then maybe you would have a shot, but you won't because "oppression".
It's still a rhetorical question, by the way, I don't know how I can make that any clearer. I can't understand it for you, but do you honestly think I was saying "Roll call of people who care about this" vs "This is not a big deal"?
I read the first paragraph and realized you completely missed the point of what I said and put accusations forth under me that i did not make.
Shows how far out on left field you are. Way ofF point.
Due to your own ignorance and partiality. Not gonna bother listing the fallacies in the first post alone.
So far that's two you can't put yourself upright to.
HackOtaku I posted the 500000th topic Reputation: 81
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Posted: Sun Jun 05, 2016 11:33 am Post subject:
greatsage wrote:
HackOtaku wrote:
Holy shit, you are not oppressed. Is this why you became muslim? To play victim? This is the most pathetic thing I've seen you write in a while, please grow a pair of balls and join the real world instead of pretending that the "big, evil, white man" is keeping you down. Have you been drinking tumblr kool-aid or something? "Check your privilege" is cringey as fuck. If you think you're being oppressed in your comfortable, air-conditioned house in Florida where you're able to shitpost all you'd like and apply to get welfare because you don't want to work for a living, then you have a very, very distorted view of what oppression is. You don't know true oppression.
Apparently, in your worldview, if I don't really care about this man, which I don't, I am "oppressing his religion" (lmao?). The fact that you just throw out the word oppression like that is how I know you don't know what it really means. If you think otherwise, explain to me the connection between my apathy towards the death of another person in the world and the oppression of that person's religion.
Or don't, and just keep saying everything is the white man's fault, and you are oppressed, and all of your failings are because society is going to keep you down and if only the white man wasn't so evil then maybe you would have a shot, but you won't because "oppression".
It's still a rhetorical question, by the way, I don't know how I can make that any clearer. I can't understand it for you, but do you honestly think I was saying "Roll call of people who care about this" vs "This is not a big deal"?
I read the first paragraph and realized you completely missed the point of what I said and put accusations forth under me that i did not make.
Shows how far out on left field you are. Way ofF point.
Due to your own ignorance and partiality. Not gonna bother listing the fallacies in the first post alone.
So far that's two you can't put yourself upright to.
Classic Talix, loves to blow his own horn and then pretend like everyone misrepresents the shit that comes out. How about you just explain the connection of my apathy and my apparent "oppression of his religion?" And what do you mean "that's two?"
Also, I loved how you brought unrelated politics into this to try to attack me. Like, are you joking?
Here's a reply you can understand though, because I know any attempt at real discussion with you is pointless:
Read your first sentence, decided you are too stupid to be worth my time. You are wrong, it is evident, and I don't need to prove it because it's all right there. You lose, I win, that's it, and I will ask my friends if they think that's the case and they'll agree with me, so you still lose because you are ignorant and you misrepresent and use fallacies. :^).
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