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wymer1337
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 Posted: Thu Oct 25, 2012 1:11 pm Post subject: Encrypted |
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| I am trying to find a value but i can't find it in Cheat Engine, now some people said it's encrypted so now my question is how can i find it?
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wymer1337
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| Posted: Fri Oct 26, 2012 12:13 pm Post subject: |
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| soo is there none that can help me? is it beyond peoples experience? guess not..
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SteveAndrew
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| Posted: Fri Oct 26, 2012 2:28 pm Post subject: |
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Well this is a tricky subject... I think there is two ways (or at least these are the only two I can think of)
1. Use changed / unchanged value scans...
Ex. Start search with unknown initial value... make the value change in the game, either have it increase or decrease... Then do a 'changed' value for the next scan... Do other stuff in the game which will make other values change except the value your searching for, (besides something that will make the value your trying to find's dynamic address change, like advancing to the next map or something like that) and do 'unchanged' value scan for the next scan...
Repeat that until hopefully you can narrow it down to a small enough number to start figuring out which value is the one you want... (Can take a while/many scans and sometimes you may not even be able to narrow it down enough depending on the game)
Yeah that method is kind of a pain, but since the value is encrypted/encoded it's not going to increase/decrease relevant to how you see it increase/decrease in the game... So the only other way I can think of is to:
2. Be a pro reverse engineer and know your way around a debugger really well... Analyse the code and maybe start in the main games loop or something like that, and debug your way through it until you see how the game is working and you can eventually track down where your value that your interested in, is being encrypted/encoded and/or modified/changed...
This second method even I am not the best at, as you basically are doing things from the exact opposite end... When you find the value your after and 'find what accesses/writes' your going in reverse and getting right to the code you want to modify... Going this way is like going from the beginning and you are trying to end up there...
Other then that is there any other ways? I'm not 100% but I'm trying to get good at method number 2 lol 
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wymer1337
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| Posted: Fri Oct 26, 2012 3:37 pm Post subject: |
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| SteveAndrew wrote: | Well this is a tricky subject... I think there is two ways (or at least these are the only two I can think of)
1. Use changed / unchanged value scans...
Ex. Start search with unknown initial value... make the value change in the game, either have it increase or decrease... Then do a 'changed' value for the next scan... Do other stuff in the game which will make other values change except the value your searching for, (besides something that will make the value your trying to find's dynamic address change, like advancing to the next map or something like that) and do 'unchanged' value scan for the next scan...
Repeat that until hopefully you can narrow it down to a small enough number to start figuring out which value is the one you want... (Can take a while/many scans and sometimes you may not even be able to narrow it down enough depending on the game)
Yeah that method is kind of a pain, but since the value is encrypted/encoded it's not going to increase/decrease relevant to how you see it increase/decrease in the game... So the only other way I can think of is to:
2. Be a pro reverse engineer and know your way around a debugger really well... Analyse the code and maybe start in the main games loop or something like that, and debug your way through it until you see how the game is working and you can eventually track down where your value that your interested in, is being encrypted/encoded and/or modified/changed...
This second method even I am not the best at, as you basically are doing things from the exact opposite end... When you find the value your after and 'find what accesses/writes' your going in reverse and getting right to the code you want to modify... Going this way is like going from the beginning and you are trying to end up there...
Other then that is there any other ways? I'm not 100% but I'm trying to get good at method number 2 lol |
Thank you very much  but the thing is the value isn't changing unless you restart the game..
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