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PostPosted: Sun Aug 26, 2012 3:03 pm    Post subject: I'm an Intel fan boy but.. Reply with quote

that AMDs FX prices and specs comparison with Intel...
can't fight ... Intel got obliterated this time...,

AMD 8 core, 3.6GHz , 8MB L2 , 8MB L3 = 180$
The intel equivalent is on 240$


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PostPosted: Sun Aug 26, 2012 3:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

gogo I used to think you were smart....

That processor gets beaten still by an i5 2500

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 26, 2012 3:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

the equivalent is an i5 3570k and it still lacking L2 cache because of the cache architecture.
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 26, 2012 3:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

gogodr wrote:
the equivalent is an i5 3570k and it still lacking L2 cache because of the cache architecture.
Gogo, gigahertz, cache size, and number of cores are not the only factors that affect the performance of a processor. The i5 is a superior processor, as it should be for the money.
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 26, 2012 3:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

gogodr wrote:
the equivalent is an i5 3570k and it still lacking L2 cache because of the cache architecture.
- after better research with the AMD cores notation

i5-3570K = 230

i5 2500k = 200

fx-8150 = 180

How many games use 8 cores? BF3 uses 6 and everything else nowdays uses 2-4.

Actually thought of the 8120 rather than a 8150, also, it's not the equivalent of a 3570k, it's on par with a 3450 which costs like 5 bucks more or so.

And the i5 runs on 4 cores, somost games will fully utilize the processor, while in the fx case it will use around half

I prefer a shitter fx-4170

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 26, 2012 3:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Phox wrote:
gogodr wrote:
the equivalent is an i5 3570k and it still lacking L2 cache because of the cache architecture.
Gogo, gigahertz, cache size, and number of cores are not the only factors that affect the performance of a processor. The i5 is a superior processor, as it should be for the money.

I studied both architectures and how they work internally last semester in university. The I7 architecture and the FX architecture
(Didn't get to look into the Sandy bridge architecture though)

I can say one of the most important factors nowdays is the management of L1 and L2 cache on processors. That is putting aside the frequency of the processors.


->teeigeryuh:: that is not how applications work along with the cores on your processor. Also, the AMD 8 cores is an intel quad core
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 26, 2012 3:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

u wot

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 26, 2012 3:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

gogodr wrote:
Phox wrote:
gogodr wrote:
the equivalent is an i5 3570k and it still lacking L2 cache because of the cache architecture.
Gogo, gigahertz, cache size, and number of cores are not the only factors that affect the performance of a processor. The i5 is a superior processor, as it should be for the money.

I studied both architectures and how they work internally last semester in university. The I7 architecture and the FX architecture
(Didn't get to look into the Sandy bridge architecture though)

I can say one of the most important factors nowdays is the management of L1 and L2 cache on processors. That is putting aside the frequency of the processors.


->teeigeryuh:: that is not how applications work along with the cores on your processor. Also, the AMD 8 cores is an intel quad core

4 physical cores forced 8 threads, so by runnign a 4 threaded app you're only using 2 physical cores

If you can't take advantage of all the threads then whats the point?

fx 8core is moar like a hybrid, 4 physical cores but moar units, same thing

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 26, 2012 3:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Brolock wrote:
u wot



this one is useful, if that benchmarks are real (and if they are they should have used superPI or any alike processing benchmark ) then the sandy bridge architecture is the thing compensating and drastically changed the i7 one. Otherwise I see no explanation for such difference.

-> teeigeryuh :: that is not correct.
Even single threaded applications can use all the cores of your processor. Multi threaded applications just means that the application have more control on how the processor is going to take the operations.
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 26, 2012 3:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

gogodr wrote:
Brolock wrote:
u wot



this one is useful, if that benchmarks are real (and if they are they should have used superPI or any alike processing benchmark ) then the sandy bridge architecture is the thing compensating and drastically changed the i7 one. Otherwise I see no explanation for such difference.

-> teeigeryuh :: that is not correct.
Even single threaded applications can use all the cores of your processor. Multi threaded applications just means that the application have more control on how the processor is going to take the operations.


You know what I mean facepalm.doo

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 26, 2012 3:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

and will use them all if required. (Like if you do multiple things at the same time.)
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 26, 2012 3:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

just go read the pages yourself
http://hothardware.com/Reviews/AMD-FX8150-8Core-Processor-Review-Bulldozer-Has-Landed/?page=1
there are some things it does better, and considering its price you could get one on sale and be fine with it, but since everyone here games, the clear choice would be the i5
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 26, 2012 3:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you're spending more than 180, get an i5,

smaller electricity bill
same performance when multi tasking pretty much
And when you arent multitasking your apps will work feuester

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 26, 2012 4:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

oh, its not for me. But I need to know this kind of shit.
for me I'm going for a high end ivy bridge by the end of the year or wait for news on the next intel architecture announcement. (ivy bridge was not an architecture change.)
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 26, 2012 5:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've been using the i7-920 for about three or four years now, and it is the most awesome processor I've ever had. It has yet to fail me.
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