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sirmidor
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 23, 2011 7:14 am    Post subject: how do you know what method to use? Reply with quote

exactly as the title states, i want to know how you can find out what method of hacking to use. i did the tutorial, but i didn't really find a pattern.
i hope someone can help me.
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 23, 2011 7:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

There is no general way of hacking a game. Every game is unique and has it's own code. So you have to decide for every single game what to do in this specific case. When it comes to searching the values, it's pretty much trial and error. If you search for example for health, then you can start with an unknown integer value and if you find nothing, you try it with a float value. You could also have started with an unknown data type, but that will probably lead to false positives and/or take much longer.
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 23, 2011 8:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

are there any symptoms that you can see when playing a game that give some info about what way would work?

i'm trying to change money in a game right now, but nothing seems to work.
i've just set it to scan type Exact, because it's a number that you can see on the screen and scan type All, but i can't find the right adress. i've checked if some adresses were pointers, but no.
what do you recommend?
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 23, 2011 8:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Try different variable types( 4 byte, float, double, flash *8, civ5 money, etc...) else fall back to changed/unchanged scans

also, pointers are useless if the address has no effect so first find an address that does something and then try to find a pointer.

and if it's online, give up

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 23, 2011 8:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

sorry i'm new to this, but what do you mean by civ5 money?
off topic: ik had nooit gedacht dat de head honcho van deze tent een Nederlander zou zijn.

edit: i've tried the way of unknown inital value and then increase my number in the game and then use increased value and sometimes unchanged value after scanning with increased value, but now i'm at a point where i still have about 500 addresses and both increased and unchanged value scans don't decrease the number anymore. i'm scanning in 4 byte by the way. should i keep trying or swith to another value type?
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 23, 2011 8:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

with civ5 money I mean a custom type you can add to ce, but dion't worry about that.

also, try float
and try spending some money and then look for decreased

tip: look at the values of those addresses, look at them in the memoryview window. With some experience you will eventually learn to recognize useful addresses

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 23, 2011 9:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

i've tried float and i've narrowed it down to 6 addresses. the weird thing is that they're set's of three. the top 3 addresses have the same value as the 3 below like this:
value 1
value 2
value 3
value 1
value 2
value 3

what should i do? i've looked into what accesses and writes all the adresses, but none of them have an ''add'' or ''dec'' part, after changing my money.
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 23, 2011 9:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

look before it.

anyhow, before even touching he debugger, see what happens when you freeze them. If it has an effect, try the debugger, else start again.

and is fastscan on or off? If off, then most likely it's only 2 addresses

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