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Ax3l · Cheater Reputation: 1 Joined: 22 May 2011 Posts: 37

How would I get Visual C++6 without pirating ?

Slugsnack · Posted: Tue May 31, 2011 1:04 pm Post subject:

Is there a reason you want to use a compiler that is more than a decade old when you can get VC++ 2010 Express for free ?

Krähne · Posted: Tue May 31, 2011 1:08 pm Post subject:

Alternative Code::Blocks.

atom0s · Posted: Tue May 31, 2011 1:21 pm Post subject: Re: Alternative to Visual C++6 ?

Ax3l · Cheater Reputation: 1 Joined: 22 May 2011 Posts: 37

I already use code::blocks lol(it's awesome)
And there are many programs that are compiled in vc6.0 (like GTA IV) and I don't know why and was interested to try it

hcavolsdsadgadsg · Posted: Tue May 31, 2011 4:13 pm Post subject:

i guarantee you that GTA 4 wasn't compiled in VC 6.

it's an enormous triple a studio, they aren't building their modern code with ancient tools.

Ax3l · Cheater Reputation: 1 Joined: 22 May 2011 Posts: 37

Slugsnack · Posted: Wed Jun 01, 2011 6:11 am Post subject:

How do you expect to compile GTA IV without its source anyway ?

Ax3l · Cheater Reputation: 1 Joined: 22 May 2011 Posts: 37

I don't but I was wondering why these big programs are made in ~

atom0s · Posted: Wed Jun 01, 2011 5:08 pm Post subject:

Jani · Posted: Thu Jun 02, 2011 1:56 am Post subject:

I'm not sure how PEiD identifies VC6, but I'd assume it checks the CRT version. So, the company might link the program against an older version of CRT to maximize compatibility and minimize need for install external stuff even if they used newer edition of Visual C++.

Also, PEiD just might be lying, because your signatures aren't up-to-date. Better way is to check if they have included any newer CRT installers on the disc. Look for vcredist.exe on the DVD. If there's one, they're probably using some new version and PEiD just identifies something that's specific to any edition of VC++.

But it's also true that VC6 seem to have the reputation of being the legendary compiler from my point of view at least. Even newer VC++ editions have option to use the same keyboard binding as VC6. Sure VC6 isn't as nice to use as the newer ones, but companies might have legacy tools written just for VC6 and it's not worth to rewrite them and move on. There's actually a lot more legacy stuff in the big game companies than you think.

Ax3l · Cheater Reputation: 1 Joined: 22 May 2011 Posts: 37

atom0s · Posted: Thu Jun 02, 2011 1:37 pm Post subject:

If the headers aren't altered look at the linker version in PEiD as well, its usually a clear give away when PEiD is matching an incorrect version based on an old signature.

For example I get false-positives a lot since my user db isn't updated for VS2010 so I get things like:
UPolyX v0.5 *

With the linker stating 10.0. Given that I know its written in Visual Studio the linker version usually gives away the fact that its written with VS2010.

Another example is:
Microsoft Visual C++ 8.0 [Debug]
Linker: 10.0

Don't rely on this though to be guaranteed. If the headers are altered at all or if its not written in a specific tool the linker version can be anything.