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DeathPum How do I cheat?
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Posted: Wed May 04, 2011 5:18 pm Post subject: How to find address of HP without numbers? |
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Hello, I have a game that don't show the number that represents the current HP value. It only shows a bar that decreases each time I get hitted.
I have already tried "Scan unknown initial value" and "Scan - decreased value", and after doing it many times I still stay with 1.000+ addresses, that makes it pratically impossible to continue getting.
Can anybody help me with something?
Note: the game is a simple FPS made in OpenGL using Unity3d engine.
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Posted: Wed May 04, 2011 7:53 pm Post subject: |
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add in an unchanged value scan when it doesn't change
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Posted: Thu May 05, 2011 6:07 am Post subject: |
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And you can also try to use the % scan.
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pilgrams Expert Cheater
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Ok, I am trying to find this value also. When I get the results small where there are just a few addresses. I select a address and then try editing the value, when doing this and try to then clicking on the game to see what happens, the game crashes. So what is happing here?
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DELTA10FY Master Cheater
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Posted: Thu May 12, 2011 2:44 am Post subject: |
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| pilgrams wrote: | Ok, I am trying to find this value also. When I get the results small where there are just a few addresses. I select a address and then try editing the value, when doing this and try to then clicking on the game to see what happens, the game crashes. So what is happing here?
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That could have happened to change a direction that did not have to be modified or have not really found the real address
My recommendation is to first find it, and then freeze it for once if you change (Freeze or not to increase sharply the number, so you know which is true, then edit)
(if you gain a lot and is not real direction this could lead to crash the game)
if too high or the address is not true and is nothing that affects the game, such as graphic effects, screen freezing, weird sounds etc ....)
Do not tamper with a different number until you are sure to be the real address
Greetings and sorry my bad English
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pilgrams Expert Cheater
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Posted: Thu May 12, 2011 3:16 am Post subject: |
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| delta10 wrote: | | pilgrams wrote: | Ok, I am trying to find this value also. When I get the results small where there are just a few addresses. I select a address and then try editing the value, when doing this and try to then clicking on the game to see what happens, the game crashes. So what is happing here?
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That could have happened to change a direction that did not have to be modified or have not really found the real address
My recommendation is to first find it, and then freeze it for once if you change (Freeze or not to increase sharply the number, so you know which is true, then edit)
(if you gain a lot and is not real direction this could lead to crash the game)
if too high or the address is not true and is nothing that affects the game, such as graphic effects, screen freezing, weird sounds etc ....)
Do not tamper with a different number until you are sure to be the real address
Greetings and sorry my bad English |
Ok, I found the address. When trying to change the value it won't change to what you want. So when searching for a value thats unknowned what is the best way to find it?
thanks
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DELTA10FY Master Cheater
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Posted: Thu May 12, 2011 3:22 am Post subject: |
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| pilgrams wrote: | | delta10 wrote: | | pilgrams wrote: | Ok, I am trying to find this value also. When I get the results small where there are just a few addresses. I select a address and then try editing the value, when doing this and try to then clicking on the game to see what happens, the game crashes. So what is happing here?
thanks |
That could have happened to change a direction that did not have to be modified or have not really found the real address
My recommendation is to first find it, and then freeze it for once if you change (Freeze or not to increase sharply the number, so you know which is true, then edit)
(if you gain a lot and is not real direction this could lead to crash the game)
if too high or the address is not true and is nothing that affects the game, such as graphic effects, screen freezing, weird sounds etc ....)
Do not tamper with a different number until you are sure to be the real address
Greetings and sorry my bad English |
Ok, I found the address. When trying to change the value it won't change to what you want. So when searching for a value thats unknowned what is the best way to find it?
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If a shape
there are games that if you see or not see 20 bullets can actually be 58 for the game
(or can be encrypted)
If the value is not the best way is with initial Unknown
and then lose energy and change set
Move and do things without losing energy and put value Unchanged
And he continued
Sooner or later, that value will have to find
(Sometimes this can take some time but in the end have its result)
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pilgrams Expert Cheater
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Posted: Thu May 12, 2011 4:08 am Post subject: |
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| Ok, this is what I did, I chose unknown value. So no results were found, then I lost some health, then I click decreased value. So I did this until it came with just addresses that you can change. So when trying to change these values do nothing, then if I choose a certain address and if will freeze the screen of the game. So what am I doing wrong?
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DELTA10FY Master Cheater
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Posted: Thu May 12, 2011 4:28 am Post subject: |
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| pilgrams wrote: | | Ok, this is what I did, I chose unknown value. So no results were found, then I lost some health, then I click decreased value. So I did this until it came with just addresses that you can change. So when trying to change these values do nothing, then if I choose a certain address and if will freeze the screen of the game. So what am I doing wrong? |
Exe is correct, it might not be?
After scanning unknown value, and lose energy, not with Decreased search, search with changed value (If the values are encrypted this much use)
Try disabling Fast scan
Or change the type of scan
Is try and be patient
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pilgrams Expert Cheater
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Posted: Thu May 12, 2011 5:06 am Post subject: |
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| delta10 wrote: | | pilgrams wrote: | | Ok, this is what I did, I chose unknown value. So no results were found, then I lost some health, then I click decreased value. So I did this until it came with just addresses that you can change. So when trying to change these values do nothing, then if I choose a certain address and if will freeze the screen of the game. So what am I doing wrong? |
Exe is correct, it might not be?
After scanning unknown value, and lose energy, not with Decreased search, search with changed value (If the values are encrypted this much use)
Try disabling Fast scan
Or change the type of scan
Is try and be patient |
Ok, I will be trying this. Thanks for all your help.
Have a great day
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Posted: Thu May 12, 2011 5:20 am Post subject: |
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| Geri wrote: | | And you can also try to use the % scan. |
Eh dude, what is the function of that checkbox?...
Thanks in advance!.
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Geri Moderator
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Posted: Thu May 12, 2011 8:01 am Post subject: |
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| DaasCook wrote: | | Geri wrote: | | And you can also try to use the % scan. |
Eh dude, what is the function of that checkbox?...
Thanks in advance!. |
You can see it here at the bottom of the article:
http://www.szemelyesintegracio.hu/cheats/41-game-hacking-articles/216-cheat-engine-6-features
| Quote: | | A small tutorial for effectively using the new percentage scan and compare to saved scan method |
I am lazy to quote the the whole text and the videos too.
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pilgrams Expert Cheater
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Posted: Mon May 16, 2011 9:58 am Post subject: |
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Ok, I found some of the values, now what do I do before trying to put this in a trainer? Also how do you put them in a trainer cause I tried this with a different game and the trainer said it was the incorrect version of the game?
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Geri Moderator
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Posted: Mon May 16, 2011 10:01 am Post subject: |
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Making the trainer is the very last step. First you need to make sure that the values will not change even if you restart the game. CE 5.6.1 has a trainer maker and 6.1 will have too. You can simply add the addresses with the Add Entry button.
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pilgrams Expert Cheater
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Posted: Mon May 16, 2011 10:11 am Post subject: |
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| I did with this game I found the value did a code injection on it. So the value wasn't changing. So then I wanted to try to make a trainer to see if I could, I made it when trying to press the key it did nothing. So I guess I missed something about the code.
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