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PostPosted: Mon Apr 04, 2011 7:42 pm    Post subject: Best build $500 can buy? Reply with quote

Looking to build a rig for my sister before she goes back to university. For work and shit only, but she runs a lot of applications at the same time. I was gonna put in a HD 5450 so she can watch HD Movies.

Can you guys come up with a rig that is $500 given the budget and that gfx card? Also, no RAM is needed since I already got a set of 4GB DDR3 that I have lying around.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 04, 2011 8:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139005 - PSU
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103846 - CPU
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811119197 - Case
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814129155 - GPU
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835103065 - Alt HS/F
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813130269 - Mobo
$509.93 no tax

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 05, 2011 7:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Case is too much, not really needed for a work/school build.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811129042 is cheaper and will do just fine, or you can go even cheaper and get
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811133094

That Hyper 212 isn't needed either, a stock HS/Fan that comes with the processor will do just fine.

@OP: does she need monitor/mouse/keyboard?

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 05, 2011 12:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It seems some of us has not taking into account this is a build for a female not for some 3 year old who looks up and wishes one day to be like Optimus Prime...
Was going with a Mini-ITX build so your sister can take the small machine with here by using the In-Win Diva case (there are 3 colors, newegg only sells pink and Lian-Li has Mini-ITX with front USB 3.0 but way too expensive). At first it was used with a AMD CPU, but then there were concerns with the spacing in the microscopic case as AMD's stock cooler are pretty large compare to Intel's Sandy Bridge fan height. By going with a SB Core i3 and a Mini-ITX board, notebook 4GB DDR3 (board uses SO-DIMMS), it took out a large chump of the budget leaving little to spare for other parts.

So back to the AMD build, this time using a Micro-ATX platform, here is a suggested build (ram is not included as you already have 4GB of DDR3).

CPU: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103871
M/B: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131654
GPU: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814161342
HDD: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136769
ODD: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827151222
PSU: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139017
Case: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811154079

1. It comes with a affordable quad core from AMD
2. The board supports SATA 6Gb/s and even comes with USB 3.0
3. Graphic card has a larger memory bandwidth 128bits compared to 64bits on the HD5450 and runs on DDR3. Some good HD5450 cost in the same price range as this card.
4. Without any memory required and the money saved, I've decided to add a Blu-Ray drive so your sister can enjoy true HD content. This drive supports reading of Blu-Ray/DVDs/CDs and writing of DVDs/CDs. There are Blu-Ray movies that cost $5-10 bucks from BestBuy.
5. A Micro-ATX case (too bad this was deactivated, review, fair lady) with simple design that's pleasing and none of the useless nonsense. Already comes with a PSU, but pre-included PSU are mostly crap so a Corsair PSU is added into the list. Comes with a 90mm rear exhaust fan and support up to 120mm for front intake.
Not including S&H and/or tax, subtotal is $450.93

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 05, 2011 3:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

kls85 wrote:
It seems some of us has not taking into account this is a build for a female not for some 3 year old who looks up and wishes one day to be like Optimus Prime...
Was going with a Mini-ITX build so your sister can take the small machine with here by using the In-Win Diva case (there are 3 colors, newegg only sells pink and Lian-Li has Mini-ITX with front USB 3.0 but way too expensive). At first it was used with a AMD CPU, but then there were concerns with the spacing in the microscopic case as AMD's stock cooler are pretty large compare to Intel's Sandy Bridge fan height. By going with a SB Core i3 and a Mini-ITX board, notebook 4GB DDR3 (board uses SO-DIMMS), it took out a large chump of the budget leaving little to spare for other parts.

So back to the AMD build, this time using a Micro-ATX platform, here is a suggested build (ram is not included as you already have 4GB of DDR3).

CPU: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103871
M/B: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131654
GPU: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814161342
HDD: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136769
ODD: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827151222
PSU: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139017
Case: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811154079

1. It comes with a affordable quad core from AMD
2. The board supports SATA 6Gb/s and even comes with USB 3.0
3. Graphic card has a larger memory bandwidth 128bits compared to 64bits on the HD5450 and runs on DDR3. Some good HD5450 cost in the same price range as this card.
4. Without any memory required and the money saved, I've decided to add a Blu-Ray drive so your sister can enjoy true HD content. This drive supports reading of Blu-Ray/DVDs/CDs and writing of DVDs/CDs. There are Blu-Ray movies that cost $5-10 bucks from BestBuy.
5. A Micro-ATX case (too bad this was deactivated, review, fair lady) with simple design that's pleasing and none of the useless nonsense. Already comes with a PSU, but pre-included PSU are mostly crap so a Corsair PSU is added into the list. Comes with a 90mm rear exhaust fan and support up to 120mm for front intake.
Not including S&H and/or tax, subtotal is $450.93


This is actually pretty much exactly what I was looking for.

As you said, the Mini ITX rig would be awesome, since she was looking for something smaller to fit inside her small dorm room. Do you think I could buy a cheap, smaller aftermarket HSF for the CPU instead of using the stock one to fit it in that case?
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 05, 2011 3:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Probably? I'll post that mini-itx rig later on (this post may be edited).
Edit:
Option 1 (If there is enough height for the CPU fan)
CPU: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103871
M/B: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131659
RAM: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231266
GPU: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814102882
HDD: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136769
ODD: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827136216
Case: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811108223
Subtotal: $444.93

Option 2 (If fan height is a issue)
Take everything from option 1 and replace/add the following
ODD: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827151221
Mini-SATA: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16812200374
Screws: slim drives uses small screws so if you don't have it, you can go to your local computer shop and see if they got any from broken laptops or hardware store.
Subtotal: $460.04

Option 3 (don't want to deal with that slim drive)*
Take configuration from option1 and replace/add the following
CPU: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103873
HSF: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835103087
subtotal: $426.92
Replace DVD writer to Blu-Ray reader, subtotal is $466.92
*HSF looks low enough and hopefully it will fit, but can't confirm on it.

Option 4 (Intel Build)
Grab all the parts from option 1 and change the following
CPU: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115078
M/B: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131709
subtotal $504.93
Replace Asus board with Gigabyte you get to use desktop ram but lose out on wireless and Bluetooth
Bring the CPU to a Core i5
subtotal $479.94

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 05, 2011 3:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Alright, thanks dude.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 05, 2011 4:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

SF wrote:
Case is too much, not really needed for a work/school build.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811129042 is cheaper and will do just fine, or you can go even cheaper and get
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811133094

That Hyper 212 isn't needed either, a stock HS/Fan that comes with the processor will do just fine.

@OP: does she need monitor/mouse/keyboard?
This isn't always true. Even on stock clock my stock heatsink/fan sucked and would over heat during heavy games. Better to be safe than sorry and have to wait 2 or 3 more days for the better heatsink. And no, it wasn't dusty.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 05, 2011 7:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hero wrote:
This isn't always true. Even on stock clock my stock heatsink/fan sucked and would over heat during heavy games. Better to be safe than sorry and have to wait 2 or 3 more days for the better heatsink. And no, it wasn't dusty.


I don't think you've used a fan made in the past 5 years, Hero. Things have improved since way back when.

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 05, 2011 9:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hero wrote:
SF wrote:
Case is too much, not really needed for a work/school build.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811129042 is cheaper and will do just fine, or you can go even cheaper and get
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811133094

That Hyper 212 isn't needed either, a stock HS/Fan that comes with the processor will do just fine.

@OP: does she need monitor/mouse/keyboard?
This isn't always true. Even on stock clock my stock heatsink/fan sucked and would over heat during heavy games. Better to be safe than sorry and have to wait 2 or 3 more days for the better heatsink. And no, it wasn't dusty.

Wait, during what? Heavy games? Ah, I see. So your gaming is the same performance/cooling requirements as simple multi-tasking. Your cooling requirements will not be the same as hers.

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 05, 2011 11:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hero wrote:
SF wrote:
Case is too much, not really needed for a work/school build.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811129042 is cheaper and will do just fine, or you can go even cheaper and get
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811133094

That Hyper 212 isn't needed either, a stock HS/Fan that comes with the processor will do just fine.

@OP: does she need monitor/mouse/keyboard?
This isn't always true. Even on stock clock my stock heatsink/fan sucked and would over heat during heavy games. Better to be safe than sorry and have to wait 2 or 3 more days for the better heatsink. And no, it wasn't dusty.


er, stock coolers shouldn't ever be a problem at stock speeds unless you fucked up.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 06, 2011 2:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

With the Core i3 2100, would the HD 5450 still be necessary to watch 1080p videos?

I heard the Intel HD Graphics 2000 is pretty good.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 06, 2011 3:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ArcaneKnite wrote:
With the Core i3 2100, would the HD 5450 still be necessary to watch 1080p videos?

I heard the Intel HD Graphics 2000 is pretty good.
Yea any intel HD integration can play HD without an issue, but they are still the lowest tier of graphics processors.
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 10, 2011 10:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

K I'm about to order the parts.

In your ITX build, there's no PSU. Is the 160W PSU that comes with the right enough to power the whole thing?
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 10, 2011 10:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

According to reviews the PSU included is actually pretty good, therefore it should provide sufficient power for your devices. I've remember my very first PC case was a In-Win, came with their own Power Man 200w PSU. That thing powerd my P3, which that board lasted for 5 years and even up to my Pentium D dual core as well as other components I've added over time.
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