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Clairenix
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 14, 2011 1:43 pm    Post subject: A little choice for me guys Reply with quote

I was supposed to get a macbook pro 13" but fuck it I'm getting one of these instead.

http://www.tipidpc.com/viewitem.php?iid=10140628
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http://www.tipidpc.com/viewitem.php?iid=10152188

which one should I get and why? I heard the Quadro GPU does wonderfully with 3d programs and photoshop but I'm still inclined with getting the x220.

The x220 is cheaper and looks more appealing but the t420s has the better GPU.

Sad I'm a complete loss. Which one should I get?

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 14, 2011 2:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Out of the 2, I'll go with the Quadro.
Quadro are Workstation cards which means they're only for work and
no games.
And Intel graphics are garbage, don't grab a notebook with that crap in it.

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 14, 2011 2:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

kls85 wrote:
Out of the 2, I'll go with the Quadro.
Quadro are Workstation cards which means they're only for work and
no games.
And Intel graphics are garbage, don't grab a notebook with that crap in it.


Well if you take into consideration that I have a machine with an i7 as well and a gpu of 5870m, would that still be your decision?

also, is the SSD and 8gb ram not just worth the GPU the t420s has?

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the x220 also has the IPS over the t420's screen.

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 14, 2011 2:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What type of i7 do you have?
Notebook variants of the i7 comes in two flavors, dual core and quad core.
Only desktop i7 are default to quads.

Notebook graphic cannot be change like desktop where you can just
pluck it out and replace it. This is why you will always buy a notebook with
the best discrete graphics you can afford.
SSD and RAM are not important as you can always upgrade to it later on.
Yes, I'll still go with the Quadro.

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 14, 2011 2:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

These are the exact specs I have on my workstation laptop. But since the x220 and t420 both have EXCEPTIONAL battery life. Both of them would work fine.

Intention of the laptop I'm buying is that so I wouldn't need to bring my workstation when not needed. It would be nice if I could still do some maya on the said laptop though.

The x220 has the IPS and is cheaper too... the IPS is something I really want but if the GPU is really worth it, I might change my mind.

also, The next upgrade of my workstation laptop might become a desktop (not sure) but you get the point.

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 14, 2011 3:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The way I see it, you're just spending more money to buy the same thing as from the specs posted, I can assume what you have is a 16 or 17" behemoth, and in return is like carrying a ton of bricks. So now you want something lighter but still maintain the same type of computing power for your needs?
If that is that case, Intel HD graphics just won't cut it no matter how pretty the screen is. IPS is better and have better viewing angles, but seriously when are you doing to view your screen at 180 degrees?

http://www8.hp.com/ph/en/home.html

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 14, 2011 3:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

kls85 wrote:
The way I see it, you're just spending more money to buy the same thing as from the specs posted, I can assume what you have is a 16 or 17" behemoth, and in return is like carrying a ton of bricks. So now you want something lighter but still maintain the same type of computing power for your needs?
If that is that case, Intel HD graphics just won't cut it no matter how pretty the screen is. IPS is better and have better viewing angles, but seriously when are you doing to view your screen at 180 degrees?

http://www8.hp.com/ph/en/home.html


Well at first I was looking for a non-mediocre netbook. Then I discovered the x220 and the t420s. The x220 can go 16+ hours usage, is small, very lightweight meaning I want this because I want to bring this 24/7 with me, regardless of usage and is quite powerful.
The t420s can run about 9 hours but has the better GPU.

about the IPS, I want it because I heard it's the most color accurate displays out there and since I don't trust the colors on my behemoth, I want something that's accurate to check it with.

I also believe that the intel graphics won't cut my needs but how much better is the quadro on the t420 against the intel 3000. I've read some pages about the intel, and it said it performed very wel and getting the t420 is about 40$ more than the x220, and getting a 4gb ramstick and an SSD would make me buy more though.

I guess I'll have to give up on the Maya thing since my budget's not gonna cut it if I take the SSD in consideration.

Anyway, how about photoshop performance? would the GPU affect them alot? Being able to atleast use photoshop comfortably on the x220 would be a very big + on my side.

I know I'm spending alot, but my dad offered it and HOW COULD I NOT REFUSE? He insisted actually, so I might as well make it worth while.

I'm also defending the x220 heavily because it looks ideal but please prove me otherwise. I don't really want to fuck up a huge purchase.

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 14, 2011 3:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you've not owned a mac before it might be a thinkable option now-a-days. The operating system is really taking off and becoming much more usable. Can always dual-boot for those necessary windows applications..

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I heard the Quadro GPU does wonderfully with 3d programs and photoshop


We kind of need to know what you use your computer for, to be able to recommend something that works for you. Are you actually going to be using 3D programs and a lot of large image rendering in Photoshop?
It's all well and good if it can do those things, but it's a waste if you won't be.

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 14, 2011 3:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ZacTheSin wrote:
If you've not owned a mac before it might be a thinkable option now-a-days. The operating system is really taking off and becoming much more usable. Can always dual-boot for those necessary windows applications..

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I heard the Quadro GPU does wonderfully with 3d programs and photoshop


We kind of need to know what you use your computer for, to be able to recommend something that works for you. Are you actually going to be using 3D programs and a lot of large image rendering in Photoshop?
It's all well and good if it can do those things, but it's a waste if you won't be.


>It's all well and good if it can do those things, but it's a waste if you won't be.
My thoughts exactly.
I'm actually just after their amazing battery life whilst still having a powerful processor. I'm just debating which one can do more.

My first option was an MBP 13incher with an i5, 8gb ram and an 160gb SSD and about 4 hours of usability. It was priced higher than that, when I built it. I was thinking, I'm getting more for the money I'm spending if I got the thinkpad x220 (16hours++ battery) or t420 (9hours++ battery)

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 14, 2011 4:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'd recommend the x220. It is only a dual-core, however it will make up for the slight loss of performance with the added battery life from not having a quad, as well as that boot-time performance boost from the SSD.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 14, 2011 4:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I see. Do you know any other laptops that could compete with the x220? I'm still searching a bit more to get the most of the purchase.
I'm still kind of leaning to the MBP 13" as well because I have already used one and was satisfied. I'm not sure about the x220, never seen one in action. I am so goddamned confused, someone enlighten me please..

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 14, 2011 4:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not anything with such an impressive battery life. 16 hours is pretty insane.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 14, 2011 4:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ZacTheSin wrote:
Not anything with such an impressive battery life. 16 hours is pretty insane.

Do you know what screen the MBP 13" has? and is it color accurate? also, if an MBP is given an SSD will it reach 8 hours+?

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 14, 2011 5:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Clairenix wrote:
kls85 wrote:
The way I see it, you're just spending more money to buy the same thing as from the specs posted, I can assume what you have is a 16 or 17" behemoth, and in return is like carrying a ton of bricks. So now you want something lighter but still maintain the same type of computing power for your needs?
If that is that case, Intel HD graphics just won't cut it no matter how pretty the screen is. IPS is better and have better viewing angles, but seriously when are you doing to view your screen at 180 degrees?

http://www8.hp.com/ph/en/home.html


Well at first I was looking for a non-mediocre netbook. Then I discovered the x220 and the t420s. The x220 can go 16+ hours usage, is small, very lightweight meaning I want this because I want to bring this 24/7 with me, regardless of usage and is quite powerful.
The t420s can run about 9 hours but has the better GPU.

about the IPS, I want it because I heard it's the most color accurate displays out there and since I don't trust the colors on my behemoth, I want something that's accurate to check it with.

I also believe that the intel graphics won't cut my needs but how much better is the quadro on the t420 against the intel 3000. I've read some pages about the intel, and it said it performed very wel and getting the t420 is about 40$ more than the x220, and getting a 4gb ramstick and an SSD would make me buy more though.

I guess I'll have to give up on the Maya thing since my budget's not gonna cut it if I take the SSD in consideration.

Anyway, how about photoshop performance? would the GPU affect them alot? Being able to atleast use photoshop comfortably on the x220 would be a very big + on my side.

I know I'm spending alot, but my dad offered it and HOW COULD I NOT REFUSE? He insisted actually, so I might as well make it worth while.

I'm also defending the x220 heavily because it looks ideal but please prove me otherwise. I don't really want to fuck up a huge purchase.

With Intel HD you ain't just going to cut Maya.

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 14, 2011 5:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ikr, I give up on the maya idea. It was too much of a dream if it could do it.
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