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kls85
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 Posted: Tue Mar 23, 2010 8:21 am Post subject: Googles leaves Google.cn |
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| DailyTech wrote: | Google has had enough of China
It took a few months, but Google has finally had enough of China. Google and the Chinese government have been at odds ever since Google claimed that it systems were hacked by the Chinese. “In mid-December, we detected a highly sophisticated and targeted attack on our corporate infrastructure originating from China that resulted in the theft of intellectual property from Google,” wrote Google Chief Legal Advisor David Drummond back in January. “However, it soon became clear that what at what first appeared to be solely a security incident--albeit a significant one--was something quite different.”
Since that time, a war of words has been escalating and U.S. Secretary of State Hilary Clinton has even gotten involved. Now, Google has finally put its foot down with regards to China – it's tired of the network attacks and it's tired of censoring search results to appease the Chinese government.
“So earlier today we stopped censoring our search services—Google Search, Google News, and Google Images—on Google.cn,” wrote David Drummond, Google's Chief Legal Officer, on the company's official blog today. “Users visiting Google.cn are now being redirected to Google.com.hk, where we are offering uncensored search in simplified Chinese, specifically designed for users in mainland China and delivered via our servers in Hong Kong.”
Drummond goes on to say that the Chinese government has been unwilling to compromise or hear Google's side of the argument when it comes to censorship, let alone the network intrusions that originated in China. Also noteworthy is that Drummond specifically mentions that U.S. executives alone were responsible for the decision to shut down Google.cn. “None of our employees in China can, or should, be held responsible for them,” Drummond emphasized, likely in a nod to ensure that nothing fishy happens to the Chinese employees.
Despite the fact that Google.cn will cease to exist, Google maintains that it will continue to pursue its research and development efforts in China.
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Karakawe
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| Posted: Tue Mar 23, 2010 3:56 pm Post subject: |
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iTz SWAT
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| Posted: Tue Mar 23, 2010 10:36 pm Post subject: |
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| Karakawe wrote: | | It's about time if you ask me. |
I agree. Communism sucks. Just because China has a bitch of a government shouldn't mean Google has to take any responsibility for the dumbness... Good on ya Google.
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elpacco
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| iTz SWAT wrote: | | Karakawe wrote: | | It's about time if you ask me. |
I agree. Communism sucks. Just because China has a bitch of a government shouldn't mean Google has to take any responsibility for the dumbness... Good on ya Google. |
It's not like that at all. Google is an international company and chose to work in China, because they received great profits from it. China has the right to place whatever restrictions it wants on the companies that do business there. It made a deal with Google, that Google could only offer it's search engine in China if they added a filter that complied with the Chinese authority. This was against Google's ethics, which preach free information. So they pulled out.
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iTz SWAT
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| Posted: Wed Mar 24, 2010 1:32 am Post subject: |
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| elpacco wrote: | | iTz SWAT wrote: | | Karakawe wrote: | | It's about time if you ask me. |
I agree. Communism sucks. Just because China has a bitch of a government shouldn't mean Google has to take any responsibility for the dumbness... Good on ya Google. |
It's not like that at all. Google is an international company and chose to work in China, because they received great profits from it. China has the right to place whatever restrictions it wants on the companies that do business there. It made a deal with Google, that Google could only offer it's search engine in China if they added a filter that complied with the Chinese authority. This was against Google's ethics, which preach free information. So they pulled out. |
Correct. I'm saying I don't think Google has to follow some communist vaginal rule. They also pulled out because the Chinese government hacked Google.
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| Posted: Wed Mar 24, 2010 5:25 am Post subject: |
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| Go Google!
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iTz SWAT
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| Posted: Wed Mar 24, 2010 5:28 am Post subject: |
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kls, I think you should make a poll.
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kls85
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| Posted: Wed Mar 24, 2010 8:47 am Post subject: |
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Poll is added.
According to the interweb, looks like China is now partially blocking search
results from Google's Hong Kong based site.
This now gets interesting since Hong Kong has more freedom than the people in mainland China, but Hong Kong is still part of China.
Is the filtering only affecting mainland China users or both?
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Google HK is more or less the same as Google.com, without censorship.
I've been following the incident since the start. IMO the censorship in China is completely pointless. Blocking out their "sensitive" political conflicts such as the Tienanmen Square massacre or the Tibet riot doesn't cover up history. Google has done the right thing by releasing such information to the Chinese, spreading truth instead of misinformation.
Did I mention that Facebook, Twitter, and other social websites are blocked in China as well? All aiming to keep the public appearance of China look "clean" without its citizens spreading the truth to the public.
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| Posted: Sat Mar 27, 2010 7:30 pm Post subject: |
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| Haswell wrote: | Google HK is more or less the same as Google.com, without censorship.
I've been following the incident since the start. IMO the censorship in China is completely pointless. Blocking out their "sensitive" political conflicts such as the Tienanmen Square massacre or the Tibet riot doesn't cover up history. Google has done the right thing by releasing such information to the Chinese, spreading truth instead of misinformation.
Did I mention that Facebook, Twitter, and other social websites are blocked in China as well? All aiming to keep the public appearance of China look "clean" without its citizens spreading the truth to the public. |
If i lived in China can't i just got to Google.HK or Google.com............
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Haswell
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The firewall operated by the government completely blocks any websites they deem to be inappropriate to the country, whether it is criticism of their policies or any method that "misinformation" can be communicated to the Chinese public. Proxy websites can partially solve this problem, if the user is lucky enough to find one not blocked. The internet police controls the national internet media, deleting content they dislike. If CEF is operated in China, this entire thread would be deleted within 24 hours, plus the secret police knocking on my door.
Interestingly porn sites aren't blocked.
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Karakawe
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| Posted: Sat Mar 27, 2010 9:22 pm Post subject: |
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| Hong Kong, on the other hand, is a prime choice for hosting warez sites and things. It's incredible how different HK is from the rest of China (basically hasn't changed much since it was a British colony).
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Farr.
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| Posted: Sat Mar 27, 2010 9:41 pm Post subject: |
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| Haswell wrote: | The firewall operated by the government completely blocks any websites they deem to be inappropriate to the country, whether it is criticism of their policies or any method that "misinformation" can be communicated to the Chinese public. Proxy websites can partially solve this problem, if the user is lucky enough to find one not blocked. The internet police controls the national internet media, deleting content they dislike. If CEF is operated in China, this entire thread would be deleted within 24 hours, plus the secret police knocking on my door.
Interestingly porn sites aren't blocked. |
I remember watching this a while ago. It's pretty interesting
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IWsXhNJFj78
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Cpt.Slow
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| Posted: Sun Mar 28, 2010 3:50 pm Post subject: |
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Baidu is the most popular search engine there anyway
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| Posted: Sun Mar 28, 2010 8:08 pm Post subject: |
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| Because the Chinese has no knowledge of Google's existence until the government approved their local branch.
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