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		| elpacco Grandmaster Cheater Supreme
 
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				|  Posted: Thu Feb 11, 2010 8:01 am    Post subject: SSD? |   |  
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				| I was thinking of buying an SSD just to boot Win7 and possibly program files (not sure if it would be a big influence to the speed or performance of my computer).  So I was looking on Newegg but I realized I don't know anything about SSDs.  I need some advice. _________________
 
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		| Clairenix Grandmaster Cheater
 
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				|  Posted: Thu Feb 11, 2010 8:39 am    Post subject: |   |  
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				| Well I saw a chart comparing a 7200 RPM HDD and an SSD before and remembered these: -SSD has faster start up time
 -HDD has faster shutdown time because the motors are already spinning
 
 and some random info to go along with it saying:
 -Defragmentation doesn't affect SSDs
 -Not as noisy as the HDD
 
 and as for the price, SSDs are like shitloads more expensive than 7200rpm HDDs. [storage capacity wise]
 
 Not sure about the performance improvement but I've also heard that it increases the search speed of files.
 Sorry for the vague information.
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				|  Posted: Thu Feb 11, 2010 12:19 pm    Post subject: |   |  
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				| SSD performance degrades over time. Look for ones that supports the TRIM command. 
 Single Level Cell (SLC) is better than Multi-Level Cell (MLC) but it's hell of a lot more expensive, so most of the SSD target towards consumers are MLC.
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		| elpacco Grandmaster Cheater Supreme
 
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				|  Posted: Thu Feb 11, 2010 6:16 pm    Post subject: |   |  
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				| No, no, I know all of that.  And by the way, an SSD still shuts down faster than an HDD, it doesn't have any moving parts.  I know plenty about SSDs in that sense, I just need to know stuff regarding purchasing them.  I guess I should have made my first post more specific, I'm going to buy an SSD and I want you guys to help me pick out which one to get. 	  | Clairenix wrote: |  	  | Well I saw a chart comparing a 7200 RPM HDD and an SSD before and remembered these: -SSD has faster start up time
 -HDD has faster shutdown time because the motors are already spinning
 
 and some random info to go along with it saying:
 -Defragmentation doesn't affect SSDs
 -Not as noisy as the HDD
 
 and as for the price, SSDs are like shitloads more expensive than 7200rpm HDDs. [storage capacity wise]
 
 Not sure about the performance improvement but I've also heard that it increases the search speed of files.
 Sorry for the vague information.
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 This is what I was looking for.  And what exactly is the TRIM command? 	  | kls85 wrote: |  	  | SSD performance degrades over time. Look for ones that supports the TRIM command. 
 Single Level Cell (SLC) is better than Multi-Level Cell (MLC) but it's hell of a lot more expensive, so most of the SSD target towards consumers are MLC.
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		| Yuri Advanced Cheater
 
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				|  Posted: Thu Feb 11, 2010 7:06 pm    Post subject: |   |  
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				| SSD are nice as they are very cheap right now (OCZ had a sale yesterday 40gb w/ TRIM for $120 after $20 rebate. 
 REMEMBER, DON'T FUCKING DEFRAG A SSD
 And enjoy your 7.0 Window Index Score for the lolz.
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				|  Posted: Thu Feb 11, 2010 8:22 pm    Post subject: |   |  
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				| Get a samsung spinpoint f3. faster than a velociraptor. |  | 
	
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				|  Posted: Thu Feb 11, 2010 8:26 pm    Post subject: |   |  
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				| Yeah, but an SSD is faster than both. 	  | Hero1 wrote: |  	  | Get a samsung spinpoint f3. faster than a velociraptor. | 
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		| Konata Izumi Grandmaster Cheater Supreme
 
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				|  Posted: Thu Feb 11, 2010 8:31 pm    Post subject: |   |  
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				| and expensive. 1tb samsung is $85. 	  | elpacco wrote: |  	  | Yeah, but an SSD is faster than both. 	  | Hero1 wrote: |  	  | Get a samsung spinpoint f3. faster than a velociraptor. | 
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		| elpacco Grandmaster Cheater Supreme
 
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				|  Posted: Thu Feb 11, 2010 8:37 pm    Post subject: |   |  
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				| All I'm going to use my SSD for is for the OS and program files, which currently (including regular and x86, discluding games which I'll probably all reinstall to a separate thing on the storage drive) is about 3GB.  Then I'll probably keep another 15-20GB for other miscellaneous files I want to run quickly.  So I'm only looking for about a 30GB of space. 	  | Hero1 wrote: |  	  | and expensive. 1tb samsung is $85. 	  | elpacco wrote: |  	  | Yeah, but an SSD is faster than both. 	  | Hero1 wrote: |  	  | Get a samsung spinpoint f3. faster than a velociraptor. | 
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		| Yuri Advanced Cheater
 
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				|  Posted: Thu Feb 11, 2010 8:53 pm    Post subject: |   |  
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				|  	  | Hero1 wrote: |  	  | and expensive. 1tb samsung is $85. 	  | elpacco wrote: |  	  | Yeah, but an SSD is faster than both. 	  | Hero1 wrote: |  	  | Get a samsung spinpoint f3. faster than a velociraptor. | 
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 Since when buying SSD care about the cost?
 Is all about performance
 like idiots who buy a raid 6 cardo for $600 USD and take bunches drives from work place and have it's own server
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				|  Posted: Thu Feb 11, 2010 8:56 pm    Post subject: |   |  
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				| ssd's aren't nonsensical to buy yet unless you have way too much $$ to throw around, and then you can spend it better elsewhere |  | 
	
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				|  Posted: Thu Feb 11, 2010 9:06 pm    Post subject: |   |  
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				|  	  | slovach wrote: |  	  | ssd's aren't nonsensical to buy yet unless you have way too much $$ to throw around, and then you can spend it better elsewhere | 
 Yet true, but hey, is getting better.
 http://www.anandtech.com/storage/showdoc.aspx?i=3731
 Now see if i can live to 2012.
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		| elpacco Grandmaster Cheater Supreme
 
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				|  Posted: Thu Feb 11, 2010 10:51 pm    Post subject: |   |  
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				| Yes, but I want to be able to press the power button for my computer, and be doing something in 10-15 seconds. 	  | slovach wrote: |  	  | ssd's aren't nonsensical to buy yet unless you have way too much $$ to throw around, and then you can spend it better elsewhere | 
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		| Yuri Advanced Cheater
 
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				|  Posted: Thu Feb 11, 2010 11:15 pm    Post subject: |   |  
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				|  	  | elpacco wrote: |  	  | Yes, but I want to be able to press the power button for my computer, and be doing something in 10-15 seconds. 	  | slovach wrote: |  	  | ssd's aren't nonsensical to buy yet unless you have way too much $$ to throw around, and then you can spend it better elsewhere | 
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 Some motherboards had a instant boot feature, some ASUS/Gigabyte mobo i think
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				|  Posted: Fri Feb 12, 2010 12:22 am    Post subject: |   |  
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				|  	  | elpacco wrote: |  	  | Yes, but I want to be able to press the power button for my computer, and be doing something in 10-15 seconds. 	  | slovach wrote: |  	  | ssd's aren't nonsensical to buy yet unless you have way too much $$ to throw around, and then you can spend it better elsewhere | 
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 yea guy there's this cool new thing it's called sleep mode you should take it for a whirl some time
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