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Whats the best language to learn for all general purposes?
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 06, 2009 10:14 pm    Post subject: Whats the best language to learn for all general purposes? Reply with quote

VB?
Flash?
Java?
C?
C+?
C++?
C#?
Delphi?


^ one of them please...

Currently I'm good at Flash (AS3).

I'm learning VB (in Programming 1 class).

I want to learn C++ but the syntax seems really odd, almost as odd as assembly.

I'm just not sure whats best, I don't want to waste my time studying/using it if it doesn't help but only one thing, for example: Flash - really only good for Flash-related items.

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PostPosted: Sat Nov 07, 2009 1:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

probably C#

if you really want to start with C++, you may find it easier to work with C at first. mostly everything from C carries to C++, though not necessarily the other way around.
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 07, 2009 1:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

i started with c++, but it takes years before u can make a window, thats wut annoyed me
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 07, 2009 2:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Win32 is pretty simple once you get the concept nailed down. Not a good idea to try without at least having the basics down though.
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 07, 2009 6:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'd advice you to move from vb to c# and maby then from c# to C or C++.

Moving from VB to C or C++ would be fierce.
Why is flash in the list?

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PostPosted: Sat Nov 07, 2009 1:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oh okay, thanks dudes. Hopefully next year (when I'm a JR) I'll take Programming 2 and we'll learn C#.

Also I put Flash in the list because thats what I'm best at out of all of them.

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PostPosted: Sat Nov 07, 2009 4:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I find that the debugging of C/C++ code is very hard, and that Java can be very good for learning concepts. But as far as hacking goes, Java is worthless (although bots are possible).

I went from Ruby to Flash AS2 to C/C++ to AS3, Java, etc.
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 07, 2009 5:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

JesusLovesQlimax wrote:
I'd advice you to move from vb to c# and maby then from c# to C or C++.

Moving from VB to C or C++ would be fierce.
Why is flash in the list?


no no no, this is bad advice.

VB is useless outside of maintaining legacy code. C# is much more elegant.
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 07, 2009 5:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Guess I'll attempt to start learning C# lol.

Now, any compiler of choice? Visual Studio?

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PostPosted: Sun Nov 08, 2009 3:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

0. ASM ftw!
1. C++
2. Java || Perl
3. PHP || Python
4. VB...

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PostPosted: Sun Nov 08, 2009 5:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

slovach wrote:
JesusLovesQlimax wrote:
I'd advice you to move from vb to c# and maby then from c# to C or C++.

Moving from VB to C or C++ would be fierce.
Why is flash in the list?


no no no, this is bad advice.

VB is useless outside of maintaining legacy code. C# is much more elegant.

I actually meant C# Sad You can see that it is a typo becuase I said so later in the post Smile

I meant that it would be easier to migrate from C# to C++ than from VB.

GOGOGOGOGOGOGOGOGOGOGOGO! wrote:
Guess I'll attempt to start learning C# lol.

Now, any compiler of choice? Visual Studio?

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PostPosted: Sun Nov 08, 2009 11:17 am    Post subject: Re: Whats the best language to learn for all general purpose Reply with quote

GOGOGOGOGOGOGOGOGOGOGOGO! wrote:
I'm learning VB (in Programming 1 class).

I want to learn C++ but the syntax seems really odd, almost as odd as assembly.
:D No one should ever touch VB.. This is what happens if you learn VB as your first language.

Anyway, Python is nice for all sorts of stuff and it's portable.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 09, 2009 11:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You can decompile C# IIRC.
There is no such thing as "better programming language". I don't understand why it keeps getting asked.
VB isn't really "Legacy", it's just really really bad because of the run times. VB is a RAD language. I write libraries in C for VB all the time.


I learned C fairly easy years ago, the syntax is easy to get the hang of and their are lots of nice IDE's out there(PellesC) to use. Lots and lots of source code to learn from.
Just take your pick, find something you think is fun and stick to it! If you mainly want to hack video games, then you should know that practically any language is capable of doing that.

Also, the "Java is worthless for hacking, but it can be used for bots"? What?

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 09, 2009 12:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oggy wrote:
You can decompile C# IIRC.
There is no such thing as "better programming language". I don't understand why it keeps getting asked.
VB isn't really "Legacy", it's just really really bad because of the run times. VB is a RAD language. I write libraries in C for VB all the time.


I learned C fairly easy years ago, the syntax is easy to get the hang of and their are lots of nice IDE's out there(PellesC) to use. Lots and lots of source code to learn from.
Just take your pick, find something you think is fun and stick to it! If you mainly want to hack video games, then you should know that practically any language is capable of doing that.

Also, the "Java is worthless for hacking, but it can be used for bots"? What?


He means memory editing other processes is fiddly to do in Java. It can be done but with a lot more hassle than it's worth
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 09, 2009 3:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

For faster development and compatibility use Java. For more wide coverage of your applications use C/C++.
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