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Konata Izumi
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 27, 2009 11:48 pm    Post subject: monitor for new build Reply with quote

I need a monitor for my next computer and I need some help choosing a good one.
i'm looking for a 24" ish monitor with a 1920x1080 or 1200 resolution.
I need a good quality one but im trying to keep the price low.
I have no experience with lcds so I need some help

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PostPosted: Mon Sep 28, 2009 12:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Price range? Do you have any requirements for color range (full 8-bits per channel) or viewing angles?

Generally, higher-quality LCDs are the ones that use PVA/MVA or IPS panels. You can usually tell from the response time. 2ms GTG are usually TN panels (6-bit per channel color, low viewing angle), while LCDs with 5ms response times usually use PVA/MVA with full 8-bit per channel color. H-IPS and S-IPS panels usually come with slower response times (unless you manage to get a hold of those new E-IPS panels), but they offer 8-bit color and impressive viewing angle, although at a higher price. It's still best to refer to the spec sheets, although they can be hard to find at times.

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 29, 2009 5:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

thinking this:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824005125

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 29, 2009 7:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you like gaming, a 120hz monitor will be fun

If you can pull the framerates, it's really, really nice.
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 29, 2009 7:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i think ill get a 22 inch
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 29, 2009 7:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

slovach wrote:
If you like gaming, a 120hz monitor will be fun

If you can pull the framerates, it's really, really nice.


I've got my 360 hooked up via VGA, would I get the benefits of 120Hz as well?

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 29, 2009 8:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This is what I have.
http://www.shopping.hp.com/product/display/display//3/storefronts/FN747AA%2523ABA

Have my 360 hooked up with an HDMI cable.

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 30, 2009 9:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Go for 24", trust me... 22" and 23" are just a piece of shit, that's why they're so cheap... you get what you pay for.

And go for 1920x1200. Although it may stretch out 1080p, a good monitor will have built in 1:1 aspect ratio stretching and a lot of movies and games still use the old 4:3 ratio which means your display will be either hella stretched, or have huge black bars on the sides making half your screen go to waste.

If you get the 1920x1200 monitor, things that are not widescreen will be much larger or look better.
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 30, 2009 4:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Gun Ecstasy wrote:
Go for 24", trust me... 22" and 23" are just a piece of shit, that's why they're so cheap... you get what you pay for.


What? Size has nothing to do with quality.

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 30, 2009 4:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Madman wrote:
slovach wrote:
If you like gaming, a 120hz monitor will be fun

If you can pull the framerates, it's really, really nice.


I've got my 360 hooked up via VGA, would I get the benefits of 120Hz as well?


no, you won't get to bask in the glorious smoothness.

maybe you'll get less blur in fast motion, but you're not going to be drawing 120 frames a second on a 360.
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 30, 2009 4:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Gun Ecstasy wrote:
Go for 24", trust me... 22" and 23" are just a piece of shit, that's why they're so cheap... you get what you pay for.

And go for 1920x1200. Although it may stretch out 1080p, a good monitor will have built in 1:1 aspect ratio stretching and a lot of movies and games still use the old 4:3 ratio which means your display will be either hella stretched, or have huge black bars on the sides making half your screen go to waste.

If you get the 1920x1200 monitor, things that are not widescreen will be much larger or look better.


So you're essentially saying that my 19" monitor is below "just a piece of shit." No, it isn't. Monitor size doesn't have an influence on quality, the parts and manufacturers of those parts do.

1920x1200 is 16:10 widescreen, and 1920x1080 is 16:9 widescreen. Stretched images look like crap most of the time, letterboxing is better. Your post starts to not make any sense from here on. "Most games" on the 360 and PS3 natively output 16:9 content, making 1920x1080 'better', if you don't like letterboxing. 1920x1200 is still going to have "huge black bars on the sides" with 4:3 content, since it uses an AR of 16:10.

At any rate, they're both fine.

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 30, 2009 6:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Look for a monitor that supports 1:1 pixel mapping. A monitor with this feature will let you view contents in its native from without stretching or distortion.
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 30, 2009 7:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

New egg monitors are way expensive. You can go to stores and buy a monitor. Inb4walmart.
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 30, 2009 7:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

kls85 wrote:
Look for a monitor that supports 1:1 pixel mapping. A monitor with this feature will let you view contents in its native from without stretching or distortion.


Your drivers will handle the scaling if your monitor can not.
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 30, 2009 9:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

superweapons wrote:
Gun Ecstasy wrote:
Go for 24", trust me... 22" and 23" are just a piece of shit, that's why they're so cheap... you get what you pay for.

And go for 1920x1200. Although it may stretch out 1080p, a good monitor will have built in 1:1 aspect ratio stretching and a lot of movies and games still use the old 4:3 ratio which means your display will be either hella stretched, or have huge black bars on the sides making half your screen go to waste.

If you get the 1920x1200 monitor, things that are not widescreen will be much larger or look better.


So you're essentially saying that my 19" monitor is below "just a piece of shit." No, it isn't. Monitor size doesn't have an influence on quality, the parts and manufacturers of those parts do.

1920x1200 is 16:10 widescreen, and 1920x1080 is 16:9 widescreen. Stretched images look like crap most of the time, letterboxing is better. Your post starts to not make any sense from here on. "Most games" on the 360 and PS3 natively output 16:9 content, making 1920x1080 'better', if you don't like letterboxing. 1920x1200 is still going to have "huge black bars on the sides" with 4:3 content, since it uses an AR of 16:10.

At any rate, they're both fine.


Yes, your 19" monitor is below a piece of shit. Don't you feel cramped? How can you even fit the entire HUD of newer games? And for widescreen... oh man, that probably kills you to have such a small display. It probably feels like a PSP

I didn't say 360 or PS3... there are more PS2 games than there are games for both of those consoles combined, so "most games" DO still use 4:3. And don't try to say PS2 is obsolete -- the PS3 just barely started to outsell the PS2 I believe.

16:10 will have decently sized black bars for 4:3 content, but it is just barely acceptable enough that it doesn't really bother you and most of your screen is still being used. But 16:9 is a bit too widescreen... the black bars are huge.
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