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PostPosted: Wed Apr 21, 2010 2:01 am    Post subject: your opinion on notepad++ Reply with quote

Cons and pros about notepad++
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 21, 2010 2:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pros:
Compare feature is pro.

Cons:
Editplus3 is awesome too.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 21, 2010 2:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

There are no cons.

It is good.
It opens lots of formats.
Isn't heavy.
Free
Simple.
Tabs...

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 21, 2010 3:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I dont know how do intend code with it. (back and forward)
And it saves the my files in tabs when I close the app which I dont want.

I would like to save it as a project file instead. So that It can open the files I want in tabs.

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 21, 2010 3:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's pretty good, but there is absolutely no reason to use it.

Edit: The people who program in it generally fall into one of two groups:
  1. People who won't use an IDE because they claim it makes you stupid. (Hurf durf)
  2. People who think it is the 'in' thing to do.

Both groups are idiots. You don't want to belong to either.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 21, 2010 3:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Remember that there ain't a ide for all languages. I'm not gonna use zend or that shit.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 21, 2010 3:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Flyte wrote:
It's pretty good, but there is absolutely no reason to use it.

Edit: The people who program in it generally fall into one of two groups:
  1. People who won't use an IDE because they claim it makes you stupid. (Hurf durf)
  2. People who think it is the 'in' thing to do.

Both groups are idiots. You don't want to belong to either.
Hey this thing is pretty good, but don't use it because there is no reason to, even though it's good.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 21, 2010 3:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

konr wrote:
Hey this thing is pretty good, but don't use it because there is no reason to, even though it's good.


"Hey, this is a pretty high quality abacus. It is quite good. Too bad there is no reason to use it since there are calculators."

You're a pretty terrible at this konr. Might want to stick to the 12 year olds in random spam. You know, "big fish in a small pond" and all that.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 21, 2010 3:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Flyte wrote:
konr wrote:
Hey this thing is pretty good, but don't use it because there is no reason to, even though it's good.


"Hey, this is a pretty high quality abacus. It is quite good. Too bad there is no reason to use it since there are calculators."

You're a pretty terrible at this konr. Might want to stick to the 12 year olds in random spam. You know, "big fish in a small pond" and all that.
I'm a pretty terrible at what? I just didn't understand what you were talking about since I see no reason to not use Notepad++ for things like PHP or just as a substitute for Notepad itself. I can see where you're coming from if he asked specifically about other languages, but he didn't. It's better than Notepad in every way, and is lightweight and pretty good. I don't see the problem here.

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Also you're acting as if I'm disagreeing with you. I just don't understand your reasoning, and hope you can explain it, because I don't really know that much about this stuff.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 21, 2010 4:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

konr wrote:
I'm a pretty terrible at what?


loltypo

konr wrote:
I just didn't understand what you were talking about since I see no reason to not use Notepad++ for things like PHP or just as a substitute for Notepad itself. I can see where you're coming from if he asked specifically about other languages, but he didn't. It's better than Notepad in every way, and is lightweight and pretty good. I don't see the problem here.


Don't play dumb. I was referring to your attempt at mocking me. If you are genuinely having troubles understanding what I post, respond with content and not the equivalent of 'lol i think ur stupid'. You'll probably get a much better response.

Back to the topic at hand: While Notepad++ is better than notepad in most respects, you have everything you need in notepad for the type of file you are targeting without having to install extra programs. You should think twice before using it for programming, as there are almost always IDEs to use - assuming the language in question is popular. The increased productivity that comes with such IDEs is much more important that if they are 'light' or not.

By all means, if you're set on programming in Notepad++, do it. I just believe it's a pointless endeavor.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 21, 2010 4:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

would you prefer notepad then? if it's a textbased lang without ide.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 21, 2010 5:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Flyte wrote:
konr wrote:
I'm a pretty terrible at what?


loltypo

konr wrote:
I just didn't understand what you were talking about since I see no reason to not use Notepad++ for things like PHP or just as a substitute for Notepad itself. I can see where you're coming from if he asked specifically about other languages, but he didn't. It's better than Notepad in every way, and is lightweight and pretty good. I don't see the problem here.


Don't play dumb. I was referring to your attempt at mocking me. If you are genuinely having troubles understanding what I post, respond with content and not the equivalent of 'lol i think ur stupid'. You'll probably get a much better response.

Back to the topic at hand: While Notepad++ is better than notepad in most respects, you have everything you need in notepad for the type of file you are targeting without having to install extra programs. You should think twice before using it for programming, as there are almost always IDEs to use - assuming the language in question is popular. The increased productivity that comes with such IDEs is much more important that if they are 'light' or not.

By all means, if you're set on programming in Notepad++, do it. I just believe it's a pointless endeavor.
I wasn't mocking you at all. I said that expecting you to explain why you said that, because it baffled me. Good job explaining though.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 21, 2010 5:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

konr wrote:
Flyte wrote:
It's pretty good, but there is absolutely no reason to use it.

Edit: The people who program in it generally fall into one of two groups:
  1. People who won't use an IDE because they claim it makes you stupid. (Hurf durf)
  2. People who think it is the 'in' thing to do.

Both groups are idiots. You don't want to belong to either.
Hey this thing is pretty good, but don't use it because there is no reason to, even though it's good.

Example of why I sometimes needed it.
I'm running Visual Studio, making a program.
I have a thousand other things open.
I forgot how to do something, which I did in another program before.
I had 2 options.
1. Run another Visual Studio, wait for it to load which used to take me a long time on my old PC, select the application, wait for the app to load, select the correct form tab with the code.
2. Go to my projects folder, select the Form i wanted and double click.

Step 1 took a long time to load and select the correct form.
Step 2, using Notepad++ allowed me to instantly and extremely easily open multiple different pages of different code from different programs. It didn't hog no way near as much memory usage as running a second Visual Studio and has the same syntax highlighting etc. It's a great application.
True for some people you don't need it, but it's free and it's always there for when ever you may need it.
I have found it useful and a time saver, you might too some day.

Flyte wrote:
konr wrote:
I'm a pretty terrible at what?


loltypo

konr wrote:
I just didn't understand what you were talking about since I see no reason to not use Notepad++ for things like PHP or just as a substitute for Notepad itself. I can see where you're coming from if he asked specifically about other languages, but he didn't. It's better than Notepad in every way, and is lightweight and pretty good. I don't see the problem here.


Don't play dumb. I was referring to your attempt at mocking me. If you are genuinely having troubles understanding what I post, respond with content and not the equivalent of 'lol i think ur stupid'. You'll probably get a much better response.

Back to the topic at hand: While Notepad++ is better than notepad in most respects, you have everything you need in notepad for the type of file you are targeting without having to install extra programs. You should think twice before using it for programming, as there are almost always IDEs to use - assuming the language in question is popular. The increased productivity that comes with such IDEs is much more important that if they are 'light' or not.

By all means, if you're set on programming in Notepad++, do it. I just believe it's a pointless endeavor.

Say for example, your designing a new web site.
Your coding it in HTML, PHP, Javascript, CSS.
Sure you can run a copy of Adobe Dreamweaver, but that is a resource hog, it takes too much time and for some people, too complex.
Some people prefer the old fashioned way of simply typing tags themselves etc, but still want the advantage of syntax highlighting. Not all people can afford Adobe Dreamweaver, although yes there are other "cheaper" methods of getting it, it's not a viable point.

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 21, 2010 7:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

notepad++ is useful as a lightweight source editor where loading something up might take a long time in an IDE. Some languages just do not require an IDE unless your project is huge. Let's take a few examples : Haskell, Assembly, Prolog, etc. A lot of people using scripting languages in particular might not find using a full-blown IDE useful, but like the syntax highlighting of notepad++.

One thing I do not like about notepad++ is if you accidentally load up a large file in it ( in my case 3-4MB ), it just freezes up.. The worst thing is that the next time it opens, it tries to open that same script all over again. I had to reinstall to fix this problem..

I like using notepad++ to check out small code snippets that people send me too. Saves the trouble of waiting for VC++ to launch up or something. For small projects, notepad++ is just fine. For larger projects, compiling from multiple sources, you'd probably be better off using an IDE.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 21, 2010 8:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Flyte wrote:
Edit: The people who program in it generally fall into one of two groups:
  1. People who won't use an IDE because they claim it makes you stupid. (Hurf durf)
  2. People who think it is the 'in' thing to do.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fallacy
Go read this article before you post stuff like this.

I like notepad++ for quick opening and the ftp plugin that uploads your stuff after you save it. I think it's great.
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