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nVidia GTX275 vs. ATi 4890
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GTX 275 / 4890 ?
nVidia GTX275
93%
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ATi 4890
6%
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 27, 2009 5:16 am    Post subject: nVidia GTX275 vs. ATi 4890 Reply with quote

Hey guyz,
A friend of mine is going to buy either the GTX275 or the 4890
He plays Fallout 3, Counter Strike: Source and is a Game Programmer...
He also play Crysis and other tough games but not as often as Fallout...
His current specifications are C2Q Q6600 2.4Ghz, 4GB RAM, 320GB Hard drive, 24" HD monitor... He plays at 1920*1080

What do you recommend and why?

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 27, 2009 5:23 am    Post subject: Re: nVidia GTX275 vs. ATi 4890 Reply with quote

iTz SWAT wrote:
Hey guyz,
A friend of mine is going to buy either the GTX275 or the 4890
He plays Fallout 3, Counter Strike: Source and is a Game Programmer...
He also play Crysis and other tough games but not as often as Fallout...
His current specifications are C2Q Q6600 2.4Ghz, 4GB RAM, 320GB Hard drive, 24" HD monitor... He plays at 1920*1080

What do you recommend and why?

are you fucking kidding me? :S That's like my build ^.^ there's something wrong with my 4890 (or the drivers) tho. And why does 24" feel so small when you get used to is :S

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 27, 2009 5:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

What exactly is the problem with the 4890?
Nice job copying my Location sort of...

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 27, 2009 5:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

iTz SWAT wrote:
What exactly is the problem with the 4890?
Nice job copying my Location sort of...

What do you mean?

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I didn't copy it. I had it for forever. :S But I can change if you want to.

And check this out :
http://www.techspot.com/review/164-radeon-4890-vs-geforce-gtx275/

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 27, 2009 9:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Get the 275.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 27, 2009 10:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

According to other review sites, both cards do not show a significant advantage over the other in terms of performance.
Some favor ATi, while while others favor Nvidia, and some call it a "tie".
It all depends on what your friends wants.

Personally I'll go with the HD 4890
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 27, 2009 12:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nvidia because of PhysX and Cuda
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 27, 2009 1:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ok i just got done having this fiasco, I had the 4890 and it was a good card don't get me wrong. Handled great and ran pretty hot, well i tried the asus GTX 275 and beat the living crap out of it for me. Like in fur mark ATI 4890 got like 4185 frames in a 60 second benchmark, gtx 275 got 4785 in 60 sec benchjoe. It played Crysis better, and all my games better, Only exception is HawX since its for ati with its direct x 10.1. But the only thing that did for ati is gave it like an extra 8 frames, for me anyway. It could be different for you but that's my experience with this. Also ATI's driver were a pain in the ass, the new ones didnt want to work.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 27, 2009 3:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

iTz SWAT wrote:
What exactly is the problem with the 4890?
Nice job copying my Location sort of...

Im having troubles when the games redraw shadows and stuff they tear.
And im having some other troubles. Nothing seems to solve it but it's ok since I dont play demanding games and soon no games at all.

And I've tried everything, nothing works.

But it's really a good card. No lag or nothing on max settings!

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 27, 2009 5:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'd have to side with the GTX 275 on this one. For just $10 (or more, depending on the models compared), you get NVIDIA's better drivers, a noticeable-bit better performance, and all the other small things (CUDA, PhysX, AO, good Linux drivers) that make it worthwhile IMO.

Still, the HD 4870 still looks like a much better deal than either of them. Performance is good enough to max out almost all games at a decent resolution and is considerably cheaper than both the GTX 275 and HD 4890. The GTX 260 C216 is also a good deal.

IMHO, generally, the rule with buying technology (specifically more expensive hardware such as the CPU and GPU) is to get the lowest tier model that uses the latest architecture/technology.

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 27, 2009 11:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

gogodr wrote:
Nvidia because of PhysX and Cuda


Physx is a shitty gimmick and I'd like to say that Cuda is gonna have to open its doors sooner or later with the rise of OpenCL.

@ op:

You'll probably find both cards perform pretty similarly. ATI's drivers lately have been pretty excellent and I can't say I've ever had a driver BSOD in my time of owning an ATI card, while it has happened with my GTX 260.

In CS:S you're going to likely be CPU limited.

If you like overclocking, the 4890 is an absolute monster at it.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 28, 2009 5:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

superweapons wrote:
I'd have to side with the GTX 275 on this one. For just $10 (or more, depending on the models compared), you get NVIDIA's better drivers, a noticeable-bit better performance, and all the other small things (CUDA, PhysX, AO, good Linux drivers) that make it worthwhile IMO.

Still, the HD 4870 still looks like a much better deal than either of them. Performance is good enough to max out almost all games at a decent resolution and is considerably cheaper than both the GTX 275 and HD 4890. The GTX 260 C216 is also a good deal.

IMHO, generally, the rule with buying technology (specifically more expensive hardware such as the CPU and GPU) is to get the lowest tier model that uses the latest architecture/technology.

how about 4870x2?

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PostPosted: Sat Aug 29, 2009 7:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well 4890 is about $50 cheaper. But for performance the gtx 275 is just that much better. I'm thinking of buying a Gigabyte gtx 275 in a few weeks. But keep in mind DirectX11 cards will be hitting the shelves soon. So depending on how much money you have it might be worth waiting.
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 29, 2009 8:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

slovach wrote:
gogodr wrote:
Nvidia because of PhysX and Cuda


Physx is a shitty gimmick and I'd like to say that Cuda is gonna have to open its doors sooner or later with the rise of OpenCL.



PhysX is so awesum that ATi users started crying out that they didn;t have physX and only used shitty Havok so some guys started working on making PhysX for ATi Cards, Nvidia noticed and they are helping the Developing group to make PhysX work with ATi cards.

Nvidia is not a greedy company they will share sooner or later but for now its only for Nvidia.
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 30, 2009 3:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

gogodr wrote:
slovach wrote:
gogodr wrote:
Nvidia because of PhysX and Cuda


Physx is a shitty gimmick and I'd like to say that Cuda is gonna have to open its doors sooner or later with the rise of OpenCL.



PhysX is so awesum that ATi users started crying out that they didn;t have physX and only used shitty Havok so some guys started working on making PhysX for ATi Cards, Nvidia noticed and they are helping the Developing group to make PhysX work with ATi cards.

Nvidia is not a greedy company they will share sooner or later but for now its only for Nvidia.


You're an idiot. nVidia bought Ageia. Why the hell would nVidia allow ATI to use PhysX in their cards?

Regardless, there are only a very small handful of games that make (good) use of the technology as of right now. The "realistic" fabric tears whenever so much as a kitten brushes against it and the particle physics are mediocre at best.

Gimmicky technology is gimmicky.

Also, don't forget that the Havok physics engine is backed by both ATI and Intel at the moment. PhysX is backed only by nVidia.

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