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PostPosted: Mon May 25, 2009 4:55 am    Post subject: thinking about geting dual cure prosesor Reply with quote

are dual core prosesors better than normal ones?

im mostly playing games like gta san andreas oblivion and fallout 3 and i want to get GTA IV.

im just wondering since i know nothing about dual core prosesors would i see a big diference in performance?

and is it worth getting a dual core?

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PostPosted: Mon May 25, 2009 4:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

GTA 4 isn't likely to be playable outside of a multi-core system.
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PostPosted: Mon May 25, 2009 5:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

for Fallout 3:
Minimum: 2.4 Ghz Intel Pentium 4 or equivalent processor

for GTA IV:
Minimum: Intel Core 2 Duo 1.8GHz, AMD Athlon X2 64 2.4GHz
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PostPosted: Mon May 25, 2009 5:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've seen tons of hardcore gamers just get the best single core processors, since a lot of games don't support more than one core anyway.

I'd definitely go for a dual core at the very least though, since I don't game much, and they aren't expensive at all.

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PostPosted: Mon May 25, 2009 6:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

All depends if your motherboard can support it.
Mine cannot, sadly.
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PostPosted: Mon May 25, 2009 7:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Valve wrote:
for Fallout 3:
Minimum: 2.4 Ghz Intel Pentium 4 or equivalent processor

for GTA IV:
Minimum: Intel Core 2 Duo 1.8GHz, AMD Athlon X2 64 2.4GHz


My 3GHz C2Q probably gets more FPS than a 4.2GHz C2D (assuming they're the same systems otherwise). GTA IV is multi-threaded, and the game takes good advantage of it. But considering even with my beastly system, it will only get "just over playable" in the game (not the benchmark) with the graphics maxed out.

But the point I'm trying to get across is that GTA IV will probably prove that your CPU is the bottleneck. Although a dual core can play GTA IV, the FPS will be horribly low even with a uber-high-end GPU. The AI, physics, object render distance, etc all really place a ton of stress on the CPU, something that a quad core will much more effectively handle.

The other games should perform just fine with dual cores. Most games nowadays are at least somewhat dual-threaded, so you will benefit from an upgrade to a dual core processor. You'll probably even get some other benefits from the updated architecture (newer SSE version support, smaller fab, lower power draw, other technologies).
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PostPosted: Mon May 25, 2009 7:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This is a new pc I bought not too long ago



I've already checked and with that setup I can run games like Crysis, fallout 3, bioshock, COD4 all at max settings.
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PostPosted: Mon May 25, 2009 9:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Not with a GeForce 9300 and a mid-end dual core. Although you can run them, it won't be pleasant, especially when you crank the eye candy up. My old 8800GS and 3GHz quad core could only get Crysis at about 25FPS average maxed out without AA (or AF for that matter) at 1440x900. Fallout 3 was a bit nicer with the FPS, and Bioshock and CoD4 played smoothly at max.


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PostPosted: Mon May 25, 2009 9:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Valve wrote:
This is a new pc I bought not too long ago



I've already checked and with that setup I can run games like Crysis, fallout 3, bioshock, COD4 all at max settings.



I doubt your able to play Crysis at max settings on the specs you've got as that game is pretty intensive. Even if this were true, then you probably running at the lowest resolution possible.

To the OP, if both type of cpus are at the same price range, then go with a quad (if your board supports it). A quad's low speed may be the reason why some users will prefer a dual (duals are clocked faster than quads), but the 2 extra cores will come into play when your running multi-threaded apps.

Here are two charts that might help you see the difference.

In the first chart, we see a program running in single threaded mode. Since that is the case, due to the dual core's higher clock speed it's able to beat out a Core i7 (quad core) which runs at a slower clock speed.


Now, lets run that same program in multi-threaded mode and you'll see the quad's two extra cores comes into play. In single threaded mode, the Core i7 was second place, but now it's first. And where is that dual core at 3.16GHz? Some where near the middle. But if you look closely, you'll see all the quads (even the lowest model: Q8200 running at 2.33GHz) are located at the top half of the chart and the only CPU diving the dual and the quads is the AMD X3 which is a triple core.




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PostPosted: Tue May 26, 2009 1:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

oh no? You say I can't run crysis well?


same for fallout 3


and bioshock
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PostPosted: Tue May 26, 2009 2:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i7 FTW but is hell expensive x_x.....
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PostPosted: Tue May 26, 2009 3:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i'd prefer i7 or a quad core cpu. They were the best I had even tho I had a bad gpu Smile
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PostPosted: Tue May 26, 2009 5:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

@Valve:

That means nothing. Those online "Can I Run It" tests don't tell you anything. Run the Crysis benchmark at High and at a resolution like 1440x900 or 1680x1050 and tell me what FPS you get.
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PostPosted: Tue May 26, 2009 6:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Valve wrote:
oh no? You say I can't run crysis well?


same for fallout 3


and bioshock


Have you actually even tried playing those games on that setup?
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PostPosted: Tue May 26, 2009 6:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

=/ Guess you guys are right. took me 3 days to download Bioshock and I'm running at like 25 fps
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