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Evlesoa
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 08, 2009 10:30 pm    Post subject: Methods for Hacks? Reply with quote

Can anyone post me all the methods to hacks possible to make with a memory editor?

Ex; Armor Hack (How it's done: Armor, decrease, increase, etc), Speedhack, Location Hack / Teleport Hack, Etc, Etc

The list goes on, but what methods do YOU guys know on how to make hacks?
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 08, 2009 10:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This should probably be in the General Hacking Section .
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 08, 2009 10:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

it depends on the game.
all of the mem edits you have named are possible in certain games.

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 08, 2009 11:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

moved.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 09, 2009 4:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

jsin95 wrote:
it depends on the game.
all of the mem edits you have named are possible in certain games.


That's the answer really, you have to try known methods and then maybe come up with your own as you go.
You should know basic methods from reading tutorials.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 09, 2009 10:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

But... this topic for example... : http://forum.cheatengine.org/viewtopic.php?p=2993533&sid=4ab986d06d9cdadee31d9da9c52da154

This topic gives some ways of making general hacks...

y can't anyone make a list like this for a nub like me? lol
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 09, 2009 1:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Simply because every game is diffrent.

There is a rule to game hacking and or reversing.
"Study your target"

For games, you play it and become familiar with it, you draw your ideas from functionality of the game.

If it has uneven ground and hills, you can probably change your elevation in game. So there is an idea for a hack.
If you are successful with that, then your think about teleporting since you can alter your z axis, why not try X & Y.

The game has ammo, again you want more. So that another idea. You also notice it has clips for the ammo that hold 10 rounds, how about making 200 round clips.

God mode, some games have health bars, other show your health.
Also, you notice when you get hit in some games you flash or get transparent for a few seconds. That is something else you can look for.

Powerups/boosts weapon upgrades or unlockers.


It is all in how the game is played then you plan you approach.
No one can really make a list for every game.

Now on the flip side, a generic list can be made of hacks that are common. But the methods of doing them differ per game like we have already said.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 09, 2009 1:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Labyrnth wrote:
Simply because every game is diffrent.

There is a rule to game hacking and or reversing.
"Study your target"

For games, you play it and become familiar with it, you draw your ideas from functionality of the game.

If it has uneven ground and hills, you can probably change your elevation in game. So there is an idea for a hack.
If you are successful with that, then your think about teleporting since you can alter your z axis, why not try X & Y.

The game has ammo, again you want more. So that another idea. You also notice it has clips for the ammo that hold 10 rounds, how about making 200 round clips.

God mode, some games have health bars, other show your health.
Also, you notice when you get hit in some games you flash or get transparent for a few seconds. That is something else you can look for.

Powerups/boosts weapon upgrades or unlockers.


It is all in how the game is played then you plan you approach.
No one can really make a list for every game.

Now on the flip side, a generic list can be made of hacks that are common. But the methods of doing them differ per game like we have already said.


Yes, and that's what I'm saying. Can someone make a generic list of "general" hacks that are made through a method? Like low-gravity hack for example. It's surely possible, but the question is how? How do you do it? How do you make a human-only speed hack? and etc etc. I'm sure the methods are slightly different in every game, but there's no "other" way of finding health in every game except to look for what u got, and subtract from that (ex; 500 hp scan, -50, scan 450, keep doing it till you end up with nothing but 1 or 2)

Eh?
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 09, 2009 2:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well Z axis and gravity are 2 differnt things.

Gravity is altered if you have jump available.
Z axis is just change in a coord.

Example: Gravity
Do unknown scan
Jump
Pause process
Scan changed
Unpause
Scan changed
Scan not changed

Repeat the steps from "jump" until you find results. What should be left is everything that has a change when you jump.
One will be gravity.

No one is going to sit and write a list, it can all be learned from tutorials & trial & error.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 09, 2009 7:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tutorials... I see no tutorials explaining how to do general hacks...

It's surprising i know how to do some code caving and pointers but i can't figure out ways to 'FIND' the addresses... i lack creativity =[
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 09, 2009 9:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm rather new to this too... despite my join date lmao. I started game hacking and kinda gave it up for a while to start developing games rather then hacking them. This has given me a better understanding on how they work from that perspective, but still... There is a lot I dont yet know. And unfortunatly, the way these things works is... If you want it, its up to you to go out there and find it, and piece it all together yourself. It sux, but until someone decides to dedicate their life (at least for a short while) to comeing up with a "general how to hack games" manual... Its just not gonna all be in one sorce. Its just not...

So far, Ive been starting with the "basics" which is trying to understand how pointers work, followed by multi level pointers, once i have a good grasp on this... I'll be moving onto code injection. I'm not bothering with learning asm by its self, I figure that knowledge will come little by little as I run into things I need to know, I simply go look it up and study it as needed.

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 09, 2009 11:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah lawl...

Too bad Halo is "unhackable" to a n00b like me... Sad

I tried everything, but with a map change, buh bye pointers...
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 10, 2009 12:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oh im sure you could manage at the very least, an ammo lock. I'm sure not runnin' outta bullets could be helpful Very Happy

I know there are a few topics on Halo here in the forums, have you had a look at them yet?

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PostPosted: Sat Jan 10, 2009 1:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

yeah but as i said, when the map switches, these cheats are no good anymore...
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 10, 2009 4:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Evlesoa wrote:
Tutorials... I see no tutorials explaining how to do general hacks...

It's surprising i know how to do some code caving and pointers but i can't figure out ways to 'FIND' the addresses... i lack creativity =[


Are you serious?
Every, every single tutorial on this site for hacking a game has "general/basic" methods that can be applied to other games.
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