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Imitazion
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 15, 2009 4:42 pm    Post subject: Cheap rig. Reply with quote

Hey. Some time ago, i posted a list of hardware which i wanted to buy, but other stuff got in the way.
Seeing as NVIDIA came out with their new 295, generally all their GPU's must have deflated a bit. So now i want to know, if you can find me some decent hardware, to a decent price.
The price cap is ~850 USD.(Then it is easier for you to find some decent prices, i live in denmark where we use DKK.)

The games i would like to be running will be
Fallout 3
Crysis WARHEAD
Need for speed Undercover
CoD4
Farcry2

It is generally those, and i would love to see if you could get some equipment that will run them on highest settings, but it doesnt have to be.

Every contribution is appreciated. Smile

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 15, 2009 7:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

what size case u want?
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 15, 2009 7:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

countrycone wrote:
what size case u want?

Normally if somebody wants something other than ATX form factor, they'll specify.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 15, 2009 9:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not really as they won't what's good for them.

To the OP, you need to give more info.
e.g. The 850 is only for the system I already have monitor, keyboard, and mouse.

And what is the currency symbol for Denmark?
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 15, 2009 10:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Antec 300 - $50
PC Power & Cooling S75CF 750W - $80
POWERCOLOR AX4870 512MD5 Radeon HD 4870 512MB - $180
Q6600 - $190
ASUS P5Q Pro - $105
Western Digital Caviar Black WD1001FALS 1TB 7200 RPM - $120
CORSAIR 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) - $25

Total: $750
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 16, 2009 1:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

kls85 wrote:
Not really as they won't what's good for them.

To the OP, you need to give more info.
e.g. The 850 is only for the system I already have monitor, keyboard, and mouse.

And what is the currency symbol for Denmark?

What more info do you need?
The currency is Danish Crowns(DKK), like I posted in the original post.

Also, thanks for the rig you suggested, seems pretty good. Smile
I will do some research on the exact same hardware, to see what result I get in danish currency.

I looked at some other CPU's, and i found this C2D E8400 3.0 GHz for 164.99USD, would that be efficient enough? I am thinking about overclocking it to 3.5GHz or something. Also, would that be possible?

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 16, 2009 7:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

FYI, you'll have to find another site to order from.

Does Newegg.com ship internationally?

Newegg.com does not currently ship internationally; we only deliver to locations within the United States and to Puerto Rico.

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 16, 2009 8:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Imitazion wrote:
kls85 wrote:
Not really as they won't what's good for them.

To the OP, you need to give more info.
e.g. The 850 is only for the system I already have monitor, keyboard, and mouse.

And what is the currency symbol for Denmark?

What more info do you need?
The currency is Danish Crowns(DKK), like I posted in the original post.

Also, thanks for the rig you suggested, seems pretty good. Smile
I will do some research on the exact same hardware, to see what result I get in danish currency.

I looked at some other CPU's, and i found this C2D E8400 3.0 GHz for 164.99USD, would that be efficient enough? I am thinking about overclocking it to 3.5GHz or something. Also, would that be possible?

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 16, 2009 5:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

rapion124 wrote:
Antec 300 - $50
PC Power & Cooling S75CF 750W - $80
POWERCOLOR AX4870 512MD5 Radeon HD 4870 512MB - $180
Q6600 - $190
ASUS P5Q Pro - $105
Western Digital Caviar Black WD1001FALS 1TB 7200 RPM - $120
CORSAIR 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) - $25

Total: $750
so i guess operating system dosent matter? lol
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 16, 2009 6:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

countrycone wrote:
rapion124 wrote:
Antec 300 - $50
PC Power & Cooling S75CF 750W - $80
POWERCOLOR AX4870 512MD5 Radeon HD 4870 512MB - $180
Q6600 - $190
ASUS P5Q Pro - $105
Western Digital Caviar Black WD1001FALS 1TB 7200 RPM - $120
CORSAIR 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) - $25

Total: $750
so i guess operating system dosent matter? lol

No, i have Vista Ultimate x64 ready for it.
Btw, there's no DVD burner in that rig Razz
I think i have one myself, that i can use. ;o

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 16, 2009 6:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Imitazion wrote:
countrycone wrote:
rapion124 wrote:
Antec 300 - $50
PC Power & Cooling S75CF 750W - $80
POWERCOLOR AX4870 512MD5 Radeon HD 4870 512MB - $180
Q6600 - $190
ASUS P5Q Pro - $105
Western Digital Caviar Black WD1001FALS 1TB 7200 RPM - $120
CORSAIR 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) - $25

Total: $750
so i guess operating system dosent matter? lol

No, i have Vista Ultimate x64 ready for it.
Btw, there's no DVD burner in that rig Razz
I think i have one myself, that i can use. ;o

The E8400 is a great dual-core choice, lots of games still can only take advantage of two cores. As for overclocking, you can easily get to 3.5GHz (without even touching voltage). I think I took mine past 3.6 before changing voltage. Right now, it runs very cool with a Big Typhoon VX at 4.0GHz as a normal clock.
If you're going to overclock, that's fine. If you're going to change voltage, you might want to buy an aftermarket CPU cooler over the stock cooling. That'll run you a little under 50 bucks for a good one, and cooler temps are always better.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 16, 2009 7:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Karakawe wrote:
Imitazion wrote:
countrycone wrote:
rapion124 wrote:
Antec 300 - $50
PC Power & Cooling S75CF 750W - $80
POWERCOLOR AX4870 512MD5 Radeon HD 4870 512MB - $180
Q6600 - $190
ASUS P5Q Pro - $105
Western Digital Caviar Black WD1001FALS 1TB 7200 RPM - $120
CORSAIR 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) - $25

Total: $750
so i guess operating system dosent matter? lol

No, i have Vista Ultimate x64 ready for it.
Btw, there's no DVD burner in that rig Razz
I think i have one myself, that i can use. ;o

The E8400 is a great dual-core choice, lots of games still can only take advantage of two cores. As for overclocking, you can easily get to 3.5GHz (without even touching voltage). I think I took mine past 3.6 before changing voltage. Right now, it runs very cool with a Big Typhoon VX at 4.0GHz as a normal clock.
If you're going to overclock, that's fine. If you're going to change voltage, you might want to buy an aftermarket CPU cooler over the stock cooling. That'll run you a little under 50 bucks for a good one, and cooler temps are always better.


I'm not into all that overclocking thing. How much could i possibly get it op to on air? (~4GHz?)
Also, what does that voltage thing mean, and why do you have to change it?

Big Typhoon, I guess that is a CPU cooler?
Last; "You might want you buy an aftermarket CPU cooler over the stock cooling." What do you mean by that?

Sorry for not understanding, english is not my first language, and I'm also quite a bit tired. I just want to get the things done for this rig, so i can order the stuff. Smile

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 16, 2009 7:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Imitazion wrote:
Karakawe wrote:
Imitazion wrote:
countrycone wrote:
rapion124 wrote:
Antec 300 - $50
PC Power & Cooling S75CF 750W - $80
POWERCOLOR AX4870 512MD5 Radeon HD 4870 512MB - $180
Q6600 - $190
ASUS P5Q Pro - $105
Western Digital Caviar Black WD1001FALS 1TB 7200 RPM - $120
CORSAIR 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) - $25

Total: $750
so i guess operating system dosent matter? lol

No, i have Vista Ultimate x64 ready for it.
Btw, there's no DVD burner in that rig Razz
I think i have one myself, that i can use. ;o

The E8400 is a great dual-core choice, lots of games still can only take advantage of two cores. As for overclocking, you can easily get to 3.5GHz (without even touching voltage). I think I took mine past 3.6 before changing voltage. Right now, it runs very cool with a Big Typhoon VX at 4.0GHz as a normal clock.
If you're going to overclock, that's fine. If you're going to change voltage, you might want to buy an aftermarket CPU cooler over the stock cooling. That'll run you a little under 50 bucks for a good one, and cooler temps are always better.


I'm not into all that overclocking thing. How much could i possibly get it op to on air? (~4GHz?)
Also, what does that voltage thing mean, and why do you have to change it?

Big Typhoon, I guess that is a CPU cooler?
Last; "You might want you buy an aftermarket CPU cooler over the stock cooling." What do you mean by that?

Sorry for not understanding, english is not my first language, and I'm also quite a bit tired. I just want to get the things done for this rig, so i can order the stuff. Smile

You can go a ways further than 4.0GHz on air. I haven't tested my chip, but I'm sure I could clear 4.4 stably. You can only push a CPU to a certain clock before it needs more power to go faster. That's where voltage comes in. By the way voltage translates to heat. Increasing voltage leads to an increase in core temperature.
The Thermaltake Big Typhoon is, indeed, the CPU cooler I'm using. An aftermarket CPU cooler is basically any heatsink/fan that isn't the one that came with the CPU (the stock cooler)
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 16, 2009 8:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Karakawe wrote:
Imitazion wrote:
Karakawe wrote:
Imitazion wrote:
countrycone wrote:
rapion124 wrote:
Antec 300 - $50
PC Power & Cooling S75CF 750W - $80
POWERCOLOR AX4870 512MD5 Radeon HD 4870 512MB - $180
Q6600 - $190
ASUS P5Q Pro - $105
Western Digital Caviar Black WD1001FALS 1TB 7200 RPM - $120
CORSAIR 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) - $25

Total: $750
so i guess operating system dosent matter? lol

No, i have Vista Ultimate x64 ready for it.
Btw, there's no DVD burner in that rig Razz
I think i have one myself, that i can use. ;o

The E8400 is a great dual-core choice, lots of games still can only take advantage of two cores. As for overclocking, you can easily get to 3.5GHz (without even touching voltage). I think I took mine past 3.6 before changing voltage. Right now, it runs very cool with a Big Typhoon VX at 4.0GHz as a normal clock.
If you're going to overclock, that's fine. If you're going to change voltage, you might want to buy an aftermarket CPU cooler over the stock cooling. That'll run you a little under 50 bucks for a good one, and cooler temps are always better.


I'm not into all that overclocking thing. How much could i possibly get it op to on air? (~4GHz?)
Also, what does that voltage thing mean, and why do you have to change it?

Big Typhoon, I guess that is a CPU cooler?
Last; "You might want you buy an aftermarket CPU cooler over the stock cooling." What do you mean by that?

Sorry for not understanding, english is not my first language, and I'm also quite a bit tired. I just want to get the things done for this rig, so i can order the stuff. Smile

You can go a ways further than 4.0GHz on air. I haven't tested my chip, but I'm sure I could clear 4.4 stably. You can only push a CPU to a certain clock before it needs more power to go faster. That's where voltage comes in. By the way voltage translates to heat. Increasing voltage leads to an increase in core temperature.
The Thermaltake Big Typhoon is, indeed, the CPU cooler I'm using. An aftermarket CPU cooler is basically any heatsink/fan that isn't the one that came with the CPU (the stock cooler)
and there really is no point in overclocking the E8400, it already has great performance and overclocking decreases life of the processer.
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OCing doesn't decrease the life of the processor, as long as you keep the temperature low.

I would get the Q6600 because more popular games are using 4 cores, and not just Intel demos like Lost Planet. GTA IV and Far Cry 2 are examples of that. Also, the Q6600 will be 50% faster than the E8400, even when they're both OCed, at applications that are multi-threaded. DivX, Xvid, WinRAR are all multi-threaded.
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