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PostPosted: Fri Jul 25, 2008 11:28 pm    Post subject: Critique Build Reply with quote

Well, I finally decided it's time to build myself a new computer. I haven't had to do this in some time, so I most likely fucked up somewhere. I wouldn't be surprised if there is an incompatible part (I'm looking at the hard drive...). If you know of a place to get something cheaper, or you would recommend something else, I am up for suggestions. A cheaper monitor would be nice.

Also, would it be worth it to buy a DDR3 compatible motherboard for when DDR3 becomes a little more mainstream?

Update: Changed the monitor and decided to SLI two GTs.

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Logitech X-540 Surround Sound Speakers (18 lbs) $73.99
   
Sony DRU190A 20X DVD Rewritable Drive - 20x DVD±R, 8 DVD+RW, 6x DVD-R, 8x DVD±R DL, ATAPI/EIDE, Black (1.95 lbs) $29.99
   
Logitech EX110 Cordless Keyboard and Mouse (3.1 lbs) $29.99
   
Acer X223WBD 22" Widescreen LCD Monitor - 5ms, 2500:1, WSXGA+(1680x1050), DVI, Black (15 lbs) $229.99
   
EVGA GeForce 8800 GT Video Card - 512MB DDR3, PCI Express 2.0, SLI Ready, (Dual Link) Dual DVI, HDTV, Video Card (4.1 lbs) x2 $299.98
   
Seagate Barracuda 7200.11 1TB Hard Drive - 7200RPM, 32MB, SATA-300, OEM (3 lbs) $179.99
   
EVGA nforce 780i SLI Motherboard - A1 Version, NVIDIA nForce 780i SLI, Socket 775, ATX, Audio, PCI Express 2.0, Dual Gigabit LAN, S/PDIF, USB 2.0, Firewire, Serial ATA, RAID (4.7 lbs) $304.99
   
Corsair Dual Channel TWINX 2048MB PC6400 DDR2 800MHz E.P.P. Memory (2 x 1024) (0.4 lbs) x2 $119.98 (4GB Total)
   
Apevia Black/Black X-Plorer ATX Mid-Tower Case with Clear Side, Fan Controller, Front USB and Firewire Port, PowerUp 800-Watt PSU (21.25 lbs) $146.99
   
Thermaltake / V1 / Multi-Socket 775/AM2/939/754 / Copper / CPU Cooler (2.2 lbs) $73.99
   
Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600 Processor HH80562PH0568M - 2.40GHz, 8MB Cache, 1066MHz FSB, Kentsfield, Quad-Core, OEM, Socket 775, Processor (0.1 lbs) $231.99
   
Total: $1,721.87 (Canadian)


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PostPosted: Fri Jul 25, 2008 11:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This monitor (same specs) - not sure if frys ships to canada
http://shop2.frys.com/product/5434299?site=sr:SEARCH:MAIN_RSLT_PG

These speakers are on par with BOSE and far cheaper.
http://accessories.us.dell.com/sna/productdetail.aspx?sku=A0405790&cs=19&c=us&l=en&dgc=SS&cid=27530&lid=627063
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 25, 2008 11:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The GTX 280s aren't really good when it comes to price/performance ratio.

Also, if you're not planning to run SLI, you might want to go with a 750i motherboard instead, just to save some money.
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 26, 2008 12:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nearly the same as my build, great choices but switch from 2gb to 4gb ram, das about it
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 26, 2008 12:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm considering getting a 22" monitor for just over $200; instead of the GTX 280 I may SLI two 8800 GTs.

The new total comes to $1,721.87 with the above changes.

Anyone else have anything to add?

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Nearly the same as my build, great choices but switch from 2gb to 4gb ram, das about it


It has 4GB of RAM.


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PostPosted: Sat Jul 26, 2008 12:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ohh, then its a great build, im building nerly same pc soon.
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 26, 2008 12:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Get the surround sound speakers I suggested. You'll regret not Neutral They are the greatest thing your ears will ever hear.
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 26, 2008 12:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It all depends on what you are using it for. I think using DDR3 now is worth it.
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 26, 2008 12:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

cyclicalevents wrote:
Get the surround sound speakers I suggested. You'll regret not Neutral They are the greatest thing your ears will ever hear.


I would, but dorm rooms have very thin walls... and to be honest I will probably be using my iPod headphones most of the time.

When I get my own place I might consider spending more on speakers. Smile

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It all depends on what you are using it for. I think using DDR3 now is worth it.


The problem with DDR3 is that I would need to find a new mother board that would support it. Also, even though the MHz is about double DDR2, the timings are horrid. The ones I have are 4-4-4-12, wheras the top of the line DDR3 have about 7-7-7-20. Also it is more expensive.
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 26, 2008 12:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Speakers: I would get a cheaper sound system, and invest more on the other parts, especially since you'll be using headphones too.
Monitor: It's pretty good, but 5ms is a bit slow, but it's not too bad. It's acceptable.
Graphics card: If it's possible, get the dual slot variant of the 8800GT eVGA offers. BTW: 2x 8800GTs should equal or surpass one GTX 280.
Hard drive: I would recommend you get 2 500GB drives, it might cost less and you can use RAID for data backup or decreased read/write times.
Motherboard: Take a look at the eVGA 750i SLI FTW edition, it's pretty good. It offers most of the 780i's features at a lower price.
CPU Fan: It's pretty good, but I know more effective CPU coolers.

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 26, 2008 12:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

DUDE!!!
What happened to the GTX280, 8800 gt is fine but id go with the 1gb version definetely. Heaps more speed increase

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 26, 2008 12:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

8800GT 1GB = No performance increase from a similar 8800GT 512MB

A 256-bit bus won't effectively utilize more than 512MB of RAM. The GTX 280 isn't very awesome (bad performance/price ratio), and even some sources state that it's slower than the 9800GX2.

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 26, 2008 1:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

nVidia boards aren't near as good as their Intel counterparts, and pretty much all of nVidia's current line of cards gives a terrible price/performance ratio.

Get a good Intel based board, and a pair of 4850's, or a pair of 4870's if your budget allows.

DDR3 is a waste of money and performs on par or worse than DDR2 for about 4x as much money, no thanks.

Also remember that Nehalem is coming in November...
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 26, 2008 1:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

superweapons wrote:
Graphics card: If it's possible, get the dual slot variant of the 8800GT eVGA offers.


I've never heard of this before, any links?

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Motherboard: Take a look at the eVGA 750i SLI FTW edition, it's pretty good. It offers most of the 780i's features at a lower price.


I had heard people had issues with this board (DOA, boot problems, etc.), and I have also heard that the 780i doesn't have these issues.

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nVidia boards aren't near as good as their Intel counterparts, and pretty much all of nVidia's current line of cards gives a terrible price/performance ratio.

Get a good Intel based board, and a pair of 4850's, or a pair of 4870's if your budget allows.


You are the only person I have have ever heard with this opinion. Why ATI instead of nVidia?

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Also remember that Nehalem is coming in November...


The price will be insane, and it will probably be a while before I even consider getting one. Maybe at the same time I'll get some DDR3.
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 26, 2008 1:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

In the high-end enthusiast section (GTX 280, 9800GX2), NVIDIA cards offer bad price/performance ratios (compared to ATI's offerings).

NVIDIA's 8800GT offers tons of value, if you get them at a good price. You can find an 8800GT for as low as $65 ($95-$30) these days after rebates, and an HD4850 as low as $140 ($175-$30-$15). The HD4850 is on average 13% faster than the 8800GT when tested in Crysis, World In Conflict, Call of Duty 4, and 3DMark06, but it's more than twice the price of the 8800GT using the prices I found.

2x 8800GTs in SLi will usually beat any single-card solution.

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