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assbackwards4542
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 18, 2007 11:03 pm    Post subject: Stop Using Antivirus Programs Reply with quote

There are so many reasons.

A. The only work on known viruses, and usually only on viruses with specific names.
B. Any good programmer can get around a virus program, its just that they dont have to. People being retarded is all one needs to distribute mass viruses/malware. Read the installers.
C. User installed programs are not checked by most virus programs, and if they are its on a very minimal and light basis. People using computers are exptected to be at least semi-intelligent. I.E. Oh, I have no idea what this is, and I don't know how to activate D.E.P. to keep it from really harming something, so I'm not going to do that. People who don't think like this are the ones programmers go after.
D. WASTE. OF. MONEY. /end


Steps to go through either a, you are doing very dangerous/illegal things online, or b, your a first grader:

A. Get yourself a small quick antivirus program like eset's NOD32, and only use the trial, it should be all you need.
B. Stop using a computer. Smile

Most times, if you have a real virus, you don't know it, and your computer is already facked.

Sometimes programmers are nice and leave ways for experienced users to extricate viruses, which means check your task manager for suspicious process like:
A. Ones using 100% of your processor and you dont know what it is.
B. Ones that have suspicious names like IEMON2.
After you've found one, google it, and usually a solution will be available, or its not a bad process. Sometimes viruses will be tricky and replace system processes with their own hacked versions. This can usually be remedied by replacing the corrupted files with fresh ones from either the OS disk, or the internet. Scan all .dlls and .exes claiming to fix things.

If all else fails, Save your personal shit, and do a destructive data recovery. Google how to do this, there are many good tutorials. Usually an OS disk is needed, but for a lot of computers a seperate partition with your OS stuff, and OEM programs is created. Usually an HP or Compaq pc will have this, and you shall see on your boot up that there is a recovery option. Use it, and make sure to scan the media you backed your important stuff to with a virus scanner before replacing it to your reformatted pc.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 18, 2007 11:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

TL;DR
Just dont download illegal stuff and your comp should have no troubles
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 18, 2007 11:46 pm    Post subject: Re: Stop Using Antivirus Programs Reply with quote

assbackwards4542 wrote:
There are so many reasons.

A. The only work on known viruses, and usually only on viruses with specific names.
B. Any good programmer can get around a virus program, its just that they dont have to. People being retarded is all one needs to distribute mass viruses/malware. Read the installers.
C. User installed programs are not checked by most virus programs, and if they are its on a very minimal and light basis. People using computers are exptected to be at least semi-intelligent. I.E. Oh, I have no idea what this is, and I don't know how to activate D.E.P. to keep it from really harming something, so I'm not going to do that. People who don't think like this are the ones programmers go after.
D. WASTE. OF. MONEY. /end


Steps to go through either a, you are doing very dangerous/illegal things online, or b, your a first grader:

A. Get yourself a small quick antivirus program like eset's NOD32, and only use the trial, it should be all you need.
B. Stop using a computer. Smile

Most times, if you have a real virus, you don't know it, and your computer is already facked.

Sometimes programmers are nice and leave ways for experienced users to extricate viruses, which means check your task manager for suspicious process like:
A. Ones using 100% of your processor and you dont know what it is.
B. Ones that have suspicious names like IEMON2.
After you've found one, google it, and usually a solution will be available, or its not a bad process. Sometimes viruses will be tricky and replace system processes with their own hacked versions. This can usually be remedied by replacing the corrupted files with fresh ones from either the OS disk, or the internet. Scan all .dlls and .exes claiming to fix things.

If all else fails, Save your personal shit, and do a destructive data recovery. Google how to do this, there are many good tutorials. Usually an OS disk is needed, but for a lot of computers a seperate partition with your OS stuff, and OEM programs is created. Usually an HP or Compaq pc will have this, and you shall see on your boot up that there is a recovery option. Use it, and make sure to scan the media you backed your important stuff to with a virus scanner before replacing it to your reformatted pc.


Or, you could just use an Anti-Virus. I mean come on now, you're telling this to a forum full of people who download shit every day. Besides, you can get almost any AV you want, free. Also, some people don't know what to download and what not to download, cause of age normally. Nice..argument otherwise. I still prefer to use an AV now, ever since I got a Trojan that took 2 formats to get rid of.

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PostPosted: Wed Dec 19, 2007 2:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Are you HIGH?

Yet, there are still HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS of viruses, that can infect your PC, I know lots of viruses that infect ur PC...FROM A POP-UP!

Like omg.. Get a life.

Your whole text was a load of BS!

And yes, even I know how to bypass nearly any commercial firewall, AV..

But.. If you give hackers a reason to hack your PC.. It's your own fault.

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PostPosted: Wed Dec 19, 2007 3:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I mean, you NEED to be stupid to download a file containing (or being) a virus..

I remember when San Andreas was first released on PS2..
And a few months later it was released on PC.

People downloaded San Andreas BEFORE it was released on PC..

File size was 700mb.. At this point, you should be 100% certain that it is a fake. Rolling Eyes

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PostPosted: Wed Dec 19, 2007 3:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've never had any troubles for a long time (getting infected) but I still use an AV, and I've tried them all, and generally know which ones are good.

Who cares if it uses black-listing techniques? With heuristics, some anti-viruses detect nearly 100% of viruses.

If anyone is truly interested in no viruses ever, they can just use a HIPS.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 19, 2007 5:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

tofuli wrote:
I mean, you NEED to be stupid to download a file containing (or being) a virus..

I remember when San Andreas was first released on PS2..
And a few months later it was released on PC.

People downloaded San Andreas BEFORE it was released on PC..

File size was 700mb.. At this point, you should be 100% certain that it is a fake. Rolling Eyes

I've downloaded multiple games (full) that were just over 100mb, 700 for San Andreas is possible.


and, guess what, I get my AV/Firewall/System Backup for free, legitly

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PostPosted: Wed Dec 19, 2007 6:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

/facepalm why so you can try and hack our comps?
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 19, 2007 10:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

What the hell, you're retarded. A lot of 'new' virusses get caught too because they use the same "commands" as the older ones, which would result in instant detection.

You made little to no sense, computer-wise.

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PostPosted: Wed Dec 19, 2007 11:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I fucking loled. My friend didnt have a av and he had to reformat his pc weekly.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 19, 2007 2:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I fucking loled. My friend didnt have a av and he had to reformat his pc weekly.



lol.


topic starter will too preatty soon, or allready does. xD

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PostPosted: Wed Dec 19, 2007 2:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

,,!,,(-.-),,!,, wrote:
HEROXOOT wrote:
I fucking loled. My friend didnt have a av and he had to reformat his pc weekly.



lol.


topic starter will too preatty soon, or allready does. xD
I couldnt stand having to keep finding my porn over and over =/
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 19, 2007 2:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

virus protectors are shitty really shitty cause none of them work
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 19, 2007 2:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Superspencer wrote:
virus protectors are shitty really shitty cause none of them work for me
Thats cause you suck.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 19, 2007 2:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

no my computer sucks gateway 2000 my dad has had it reformatted 10 times
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