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PostPosted: Mon Apr 17, 2017 1:28 pm    Post subject: This post has 1 review(s) Reply with quote

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Yeah, no let's believe the Terrorist organizations rather than provide evidence, I hear they said you were a terrorist.
Bro, I am on your side, unless I see a handwritten note that has been signed by the perpetrator and has an additional signature of a notary public saying he is going to carry out the attack for Islam, then I refuse to believe any suicide bomber is actually a terrorist. I'm right there with you, and you're right, people in the middle east are just prone to suicide bombing attacks by nature, and these so called "terrorist organizations" are just sweeping in to claim credit. Thank you for enlightening me.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 17, 2017 1:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Yeah, no let's believe the Terrorist organizations rather than provide evidence, I'm sure they are trustworthy, also I hear they said you were a terrorist.

But then I'm not the one who claimed Terrorism required intent for Religious/Political/Ideological goals, so a suicide bombing, to me, is an act of terrorism because their extreme violence killed and injured a bunch of people and affected intimidation of many more people.

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Yeah, no let's believe the Terrorist organizations rather than provide evidence, I'm sure they are trustworthy, also I hear they said you were a terrorist.

But then I'm not the one who claimed Terrorism required intent for Religious/Political/Ideological goals, so a suicide bombing, to me, is a terrorism because their extreme violence killed and injured a bunch of people and affected intimidation of many more people.
Right, that's what I am saying, you are right. Just because we have a Muslim man blowing himself up and we have an Islamic terror cell saying they were responsible and just because they are known for those kind of attacks in that area and just because Islam allows for these attacks and promises a great afterlife if you carry them out doesn't mean there's any kind of political or religious agenda at play here. You're right, people over there just have a tendency to blow themselves and other up with bombs, and there's no connection between suicide bombers and terrorist organizations, I was just ignorant.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 17, 2017 1:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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... just because they are known for those kind of attacks in that area...

I'm assuming you don't have any more proof for that than the previous one.

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... just because they are known for those kind of attacks in that area...

I'm assuming you don't have any more proof for that than the previous one.
Shit, my mistake, those were all probably just freelance bombies as well. Islamic terrorism groups don't even exist. Thanks for settling that for me.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 17, 2017 1:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I have no doubt those Organizations are terrorist organizations or that they claimed responsibility, I've accepted that...

As I said, you just don't have any proof linking them to the perpetrators(probably because no one knows who said perpetrators actually are.)

You want to flip flop and say that the acts themselves are enough to declare terrorism, feel free.

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I have no doubt those Organizations are terrorist organizations or that they claimed responsibility, I've accepted that...

As I said, you just don't have any proof linking them to the perpetrators(probably because no one knows who said perpetrators actually are.)

You want to flip flop and say that the acts themselves are enough to declare terrorism, feel free.
I already sided with you in this ridiculous fantasy world of yours, you can stop trying to convince me. Without a handwritten notarized note and photo ID, we just can't know.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 17, 2017 1:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nope, you've already linked to a case with a voice recording showing it was religiously/politically motivated, and the other one argued that a posting on a forum was enough to consider whether or not it was as well. So either of those would be fine(assuming you even know who the perpetrator was), have anything? I suppose you could go back and delete all the postings you made for things that doesn't have any of those. Or you could ignore my post slink off and post another video of The Office and like last time. Any of these will be fine until you bring it up again
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Nope, you've already linked to a case with a voice recording showing it was religiously/politically motivated, and the other one argued that a posting on a forum was enough to consider whether or not it was as well. So either of those would be fine(assuming you even know who the perpetrator was), have anything? I suppose you could go back and delete all the postings you made for things that doesn't have any of those.


Like I said, you enlightened me. Truly, your views that some middle easterners just blow themselves up for no reason and then terrorist group rush in to steal credit is. in fact, a lot more likely than them training up and deploying suicide bombers. How could I have been so naive.
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Nope, you've already linked to a case with a voice recording showing it was religiously/politically motivated, and the other one argued that a posting on a forum was enough to consider whether or not it was as well. So either of those would be fine(assuming you even know who the perpetrator was), have anything? I suppose you could go back and delete all the postings you made for things that doesn't have any of those. Or you could ignore my post slink off and post another video of The Office and like last time. Any of these will be fine until you bring it up again.

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Nope, you've already linked to a case with a voice recording showing it was religiously/politically motivated, and the other one argued that a posting on a forum was enough to consider whether or not it was as well. So either of those would be fine(assuming you even know who the perpetrator was), have anything? I suppose you could go back and delete all the postings you made for things that doesn't have any of those. Or you could ignore my post slink off and post another video of The Office and like last time. Any of these will be fine until you bring it up again.


???? Like I said, you changed my view, I am saying you are correct and these guys are mostly just freelance bombers. I am having a hard time understanding what else you want from me. Maybe break down what you are trying to say here in different words? And stop bringing in konr's argument for fuck's sake, it has nothing to do with me.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 17, 2017 2:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I brought The Other One's argument because you two are on the same side, if it's good enough for that one to consider it terrorism or not. Then its acceptable evidence, to me, to prove your position that these acts are terrorism under your and the other one's requirements.

So I want you to do one of these three things I've listed in the post;
give voice recordings/forum posts/handwritten letters showing political/religious goals for the perpetrators' acts.
go back and delete all the postings you made for things that doesn't have the above.
ignore my post and post a video of The Office showing that you are slinking off so I can content myself with ignoring this thread until it's brought up again.

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 17, 2017 2:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lol, such ignorance.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 17, 2017 2:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

A mocking non response wasn't listed. I know you don't have any evidence for your position cause I have the same info you do. So the real response is one of the other 2.
SinStar87 wrote:
I brought The Other One's argument because you two are on the same side, if it's good enough for that one to consider it terrorism or not. Then its acceptable evidence, to me, to prove your position that these acts are terrorism under your and the other one's requirements.

So I want you to do one of these three things I've listed in the post;
give voice recordings/forum posts/handwritten letters showing political/religious goals for the perpetrators' acts.
go back and delete all the postings you made for things that doesn't have the above.
ignore my post and post a video of The Office showing that you are slinking off so I can content myself with ignoring this thread until it's brought up again.

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 17, 2017 2:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://www.aljazeera.com/news/2017/04/roadside-bomb-kills-14-southern-afghanistan-170415155546022.html

No proven political or religious motive, no telling who's responsible.
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