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Shota
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Posted: Fri Apr 16, 2010 9:14 pm Post subject:

Steam is coming to Mac, of course, then again, why would any one need a dual quad core Xeno, 300gb 10-15k rpm SAS drives and 8gb ECC ram? _________________ Officially gay.

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Posted: Fri Apr 16, 2010 9:24 pm Post subject:

Pho/x/ wrote:

elpacco wrote:

Pho/x/ wrote:

elpacco wrote:

Pho/x/ wrote:

elpacco wrote:

Pho/x/ wrote:

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Its still over priced.

Oh, superbly so. But at least they're starting to actually buck up and put real components into their computers, the 9400m was insulting.

They often put high quality parts in their machines. :\

They just charge ten billion times more than they should.

9400m isn't awfully high end.

You talk as if that's the only GPU that Mac has ever used. That's a normal MacBook. MacBook Pros have been around for quite a while and have had better ones. Not to mention iMac/Mac Pro.

Prior to the new macbook pros, they too had 9400ms. You have to spend 1500 dollars on an iMac to get a 256 mb 4670, which isn't terrific either. Mac pros are ridiculously expensive to support only 1-4 geforce 120's or a 4850. So, yes, the new macbook pro series's hardware is the first that's pretty respectable.

You're still paying a massive amount, respectable hardware or not. A 4850 is respectable. In fact, a 4670 is respectable. Also, you totally disregarded that the iMac and Mac Pro support 4870s, which are definitely respectable. I mean, not as top-tier cards, but still fine (not like much gaming is being done on Macs anyway).

Also, by making a most expensive build as possible, I made a $20,854.90 Mac Pro.

Of course, I never said anything about it not costing that much. My point is that it's ridiculous for a desktop that has a super high processor to be paired up with a 4870. There's no option to put anything better in, cost aside!

But why would you ever need anything more than a 4870 on a mac? Why would you ever even need a 4870 for a mac in the first place?

gaming, perhaps? and still having the great mac os.

>great
>OSX

>gaming
>mac

I mean, really?
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Posted: Fri Apr 16, 2010 9:30 pm Post subject:

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>OSX
>great
>gaming
>mac

I mean, really?

HURR DURR, Maybe OS X is shit to you but, if you can't install Gentoo on your own, you might as well use OS X
the Mac have great gaeming future, BECAUSE OPENGL IS THE SHIT, IT TOOK YEARS FOR MAC VERSION OF STEAM, AND THE BETA WILL BE TESTED ON WINDOW PLATFORM FIRST
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Posted: Sat Apr 17, 2010 1:01 am Post subject:

whats the point of even putting in a real gfx card? The few games it can play don't need much anyway. Last I checked Valve games were not that consuming.

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Posted: Sat Apr 17, 2010 1:56 am Post subject:

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whats the point of even putting in a real gfx card? The few games it can play don't need much anyway. Last I checked Valve games were not that consuming.

OpenGL work, using GPGPU, Cuda, for err stuff like MTY, and that protein thingy
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Posted: Sat Apr 17, 2010 2:07 am Post subject:

Hero2 wrote:

Hero wrote:

whats the point of even putting in a real gfx card? The few games it can play don't need much anyway. Last I checked Valve games were not that consuming.

OpenGL work, using GPGPU, Cuda, for err stuff like MTY, and that protein thingy

._. it still sounds silly. They could put in a much weaker one and still charge out the ass. People will buy. People are so silly.

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Posted: Sat Apr 17, 2010 2:46 am Post subject:

Hero wrote:

Hero2 wrote:

Hero wrote:

whats the point of even putting in a real gfx card? The few games it can play don't need much anyway. Last I checked Valve games were not that consuming.

OpenGL work, using GPGPU, Cuda, for err stuff like MTY, and that protein thingy

._. it still sounds silly. They could put in a much weaker one and still charge out the ass. People will buy. People are so silly.

Because GPGPU is serious business.
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Posted: Sat Apr 17, 2010 3:21 am Post subject:

Hero2 wrote:

Hero wrote:

Hero2 wrote:

Hero wrote:

whats the point of even putting in a real gfx card? The few games it can play don't need much anyway. Last I checked Valve games were not that consuming.

OpenGL work, using GPGPU, Cuda, for err stuff like MTY, and that protein thingy

._. it still sounds silly. They could put in a much weaker one and still charge out the ass. People will buy. People are so silly.

Because GPGPU is serious business.

It indeed is.

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Posted: Sat Apr 17, 2010 12:42 pm Post subject:

Does the OS X Photoshop use OpenGL for hardware acceleration? And there are games for Mac -- Steam for OS X was in beta last I heard and lots of open-source games out there are cross-platform (and popular with Mac users). This religious war about operating systems is getting just as bad as those about religion, and almost as bad as emacs vs vi.

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Posted: Sat Apr 17, 2010 1:18 pm Post subject:

Karakawe wrote:

Does the OS X Photoshop use OpenGL for hardware acceleration?
And there are games for Mac -- Steam for OS X was in beta last I heard and lots of open-source games out there are cross-platform (and popular with Mac users).
This religious war about operating systems is getting just as bad as those about religion, and almost as bad as emacs vs vi.

Valve games on Mac is out now, but they still do not need the power.

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Posted: Sat Apr 17, 2010 1:24 pm Post subject:

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What war? I don't think anybody that actually knows anything about computers thinks Macs are superior to PCs (and OSX superior to Windows/linux).
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Posted: Sat Apr 17, 2010 3:36 pm Post subject:

Hero wrote:

Valve games on Mac is out now, but they still do not need the power.

The power being heavy resource usage? Gaming isn't a priority for everybody, and quality games don't necessarily have to make hardware shit itself.

elpacco wrote:

What war? I don't think anybody that actually knows anything about computers thinks Macs are superior to PCs (and OSX superior to Windows/linux).

The disagreement arises as soon as a person mentions a contradictory statement to this, especially if they do know a little something about computers. For instance, Woz still uses Apple computers and he is arguably one of the most important figures in the personal computer's history.

Indeed, the Mac OS X operating system and Apple-built computers are indubitably superior in many areas -- stability (it is BSD/unix-like, the most eye candy (arguable, but lots of things out-of-the-box), hardware drivers (hardware is controlled, drivers come from Apple specifically for them), functionality (who would ever want to use Windows' cmd after learning a real Unix shell), support (Apple is about unmatched in the PC business), few viruses (only due to smaller relative userbase, but I'll count it), crapload of preloaded software (and not the bullshit other OEMs install), many popular programs are available or becoming available for OS X -- Office, Photoshop, now Steam, etc.

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Posted: Sat Apr 17, 2010 3:39 pm Post subject:

Karakawe wrote:

Hero wrote:

Valve games on Mac is out now, but they still do not need the power.

The power being heavy resource usage? Gaming isn't a priority for everybody, and quality games don't necessarily have to make hardware shit itself.

Power being the gfx card. I rather doubt they even need a 230m. What does that equal to, a 9800 or something of that magnitude?

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Posted: Sun Apr 18, 2010 1:00 am Post subject:

Hero wrote:

Karakawe wrote:

Hero wrote:

Valve games on Mac is out now, but they still do not need the power.

The power being heavy resource usage? Gaming isn't a priority for everybody, and quality games don't necessarily have to make hardware shit itself.

Power being the gfx card. I rather doubt they even need a 230m. What does that equal to, a 9800 or something of that magnitude?

8600 with less ROP
photoshop do run better with Macs, i tell you that much
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Posted: Sun Apr 18, 2010 1:23 am Post subject:

Hero2 wrote:

Hero wrote:

Karakawe wrote:

Hero wrote:

Valve games on Mac is out now, but they still do not need the power.

The power being heavy resource usage? Gaming isn't a priority for everybody, and quality games don't necessarily have to make hardware shit itself.

Power being the gfx card. I rather doubt they even need a 230m. What does that equal to, a 9800 or something of that magnitude?

8600 with less ROP
photoshop do run better with Macs, i tell you that much

Oh.....only an 8600? I thought it was more than that. Hell let them have it. But that makes it even more over priced than before in my book.

I know shit about Nvidia cards. They gotta stop changing the freaking names.

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