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PostPosted: Wed Jan 14, 2009 5:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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DarkEnvy wrote:
http://forums.techpowerup.com/showthread.php?t=79635
How the hell do you explain the bench marks the AMD is are getting?



Read the damn article.
Duely noted: Dragon platform has something that makes it run with certain games better than the lowest core i7 [920] like F.E.A.R VS. Crysis.

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AMD is still playing catchup here. I expected more, tbh.
Phenom II 940 can't beat a 2CQ Q9400 in some cases? Come on. Not to mention the Q9450, which is a little more for double the cache.

Well, of course they're still playing catch-up. They fell behind quite a bit, and progress has to be made in strides. Also, can't they be overclocked better than the newer 775 quads?
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 14, 2009 5:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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You read the dam article! Its freaking i7 940


Not taking that article seriously. They don't show me full benchmarks on the systems they used.

All I'm seeing is a couple of poorly put together GIFs.

All these people are testing is games. Games aren't the only damn thing computers do, and i7 tops Deneb way over on many other aspects.

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 14, 2009 5:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

How about we both shut up and wait for the freaking person who posted this topic to see what the Fuck he wants with a quad core.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 14, 2009 5:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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How about we both shut up and wait for the freaking person who posted this topic to see what the Fuck he wants with a quad core.


OP isn't even in this right now. You're trying to pit some barely credible benchmarks versus the i7. Deneb is good, but not that good. And not near as good as the i7.

They're trying to say a Q9550 can top a i7 940 just because of a game's frame rate.. If those faggots did anymore than just play games and test FPS, they'd know the strides Intel made with i7.

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 14, 2009 5:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Also have you noticed what the Topic said? He said he had freaking $300 for a Quad. Freaking AMD.


I know freaking i7 is not as good as a deneb. Is it not fucking good for $300.

compared to the a freaking i7 920.

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 14, 2009 5:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Also have you noticed what the Topic said? He said he had freaking $300 for a Quad. Freaking AMD.


I know freaking i7 is not as good as a deneb. Is it not fucking good for $300.

compared to the a freaking i7 920.


Phenom II X4 940 is 275$, flat.

i7 920 is 295$, flat.

A Q9400 is 270$, flat.

Even if it comes to prices, Q9400 scales close.

If he can get his hands on this... it'd be the hands down better buy up anyway, thanks to its cache. It used to be 275$

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 14, 2009 5:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What if he were to get some pumps, cool with water and push the Deneb (that's against the 9400)?
(I'm the devil's advocate, don't mind me.)
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 14, 2009 5:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Isn't the Q9400 worse then the Phenom II? eh?
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 14, 2009 5:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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What if he were to get some pumps, cool with water and push the Deneb?
(I'm the devil's advocate, don't mind me.)


AMD's Phenom II overclocks well, but it isn't some sort of god.

On air cooling, it can hit 3.6GHz easy.
But 920s can do 3.9GHz on air cooling.

Can't find Deneb water cooling benches to compare.

@above. Barely. Barely. By a smidge. Its also clocked lower than the 940. The Q9450 is the same price as the X4 II 940 and has double the cache of the Q9400.

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 14, 2009 5:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

DarkEnvy wrote:
Isn't the Q9400 worse then the Phenom II? eh?

If that was directed at me, I would say yes, if only because of how well the Phenom IIs have proven to be able to overclock.
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What if he were to get some pumps, cool with water and push the Deneb?
(I'm the devil's advocate, don't mind me.)


AMD's Phenom II overclocks well, but it isn't some sort of god.

On air cooling, it can hit 3.6GHz easy.
But 920s can do 3.9GHz on air cooling.

Can't find Deneb water cooling benches to compare.

That was only directed at the comment about 9400s (taking i7 out of the picture for a minute).


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PostPosted: Wed Jan 14, 2009 5:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

DDR3 doesn't give much improvements at all.
But triple channel does give ALOT.

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 14, 2009 5:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Karakawe wrote:
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Isn't the Q9400 worse then the Phenom II? eh?

If that was directed at me, I would say yes, if only because of how well the Phenom IIs have proven to be able to overclock.
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What if he were to get some pumps, cool with water and push the Deneb?
(I'm the devil's advocate, don't mind me.)


AMD's Phenom II overclocks well, but it isn't some sort of god.

On air cooling, it can hit 3.6GHz easy.
But 920s can do 3.9GHz on air cooling.

Can't find Deneb water cooling benches to compare.

That was only directed at the comment about 9400s (taking i7 out of the picture for a minute).


They'd overclock like monsters, then. AMD finally took their head out of their ass when they came out with this.

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 14, 2009 6:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You can't compare the i7 920 to the Phenom II 940 because the i7 requires a $200+ mobo and DDR3 RAM, which is 3x more expensive as DDR2. The Phenom II's challengers are the Q9xxx series. I would get the Phenom II 940 because it can OC to 3.6 GHz, while Intel's competition can't.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 14, 2009 6:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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You can't compare the i7 920 to the Phenom II 940 because the i7 requires a $200+ mobo and DDR3 RAM, which is 3x more expensive as DDR2. The Phenom II's challengers are the Q9xxx series. I would get the Phenom II 940 because it can OC to 3.6 GHz, while Intel's competition can't.


Deneb will be able to utilize DDR3 as soon as it gets its AM3 boards.
Its a competitor against the i7.

Also, prices dip quick. Its not mainstream technology just yet. Once everyone moves off Penryn and Phenom I/AM2+ boards, DDR3 will dip.

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 14, 2009 7:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/overclock-phenom-ii,2119.html

i7 VS Phenom II...

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