and there is a particular thing I would like everyone to remember.. even in the games where the HD5870 does a little better in fps than the GTX480 don't forget that the GTX480 is calculating not only the game graphics but also PhysX simulations. (( which in this case yeah Modern Warfare 2 and Alien vs Predator haves a heavy usage of physX ))
and the main fermi feature which is currently not very implemented in current gen games. Cuda and the GTX 480 shocking 480 cuda cores in a single GPU card.
also nVidia announced that hopefully it will be just a matter of some months after the GTX 480 release to release fermi dual GPU cards.
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about sound and temperature, well I already shown the dead silent and cool FTW series for the GTX 480 water cooled GPU
rofl
Just Cause 2 isn't DX11.
MW2 doesn't use physx, and neither does AVP
nice try though.
i don't know why you're so adamant on trying to defend it when basically everyone says it's lackluster.
yeah just cause 2 is not DX11
but I don't remember where but I'm pretty sure I reed that MW2 had physX on pc
lol no, even if it does, the fps trade is not even worth it unless you have a dedicated card for physX which you can use it with ATI card.
check Dark Void benchmarks with physX on, huge fps trade for little offered. _________________
and there is a particular thing I would like everyone to remember.. even in the games where the HD5870 does a little better in fps than the GTX480 don't forget that the GTX480 is calculating not only the game graphics but also PhysX simulations. (( which in this case yeah Modern Warfare 2 and Alien vs Predator haves a heavy usage of physX ))
and the main fermi feature which is currently not very implemented in current gen games. Cuda and the GTX 480 shocking 480 cuda cores in a single GPU card.
also nVidia announced that hopefully it will be just a matter of some months after the GTX 480 release to release fermi dual GPU cards.
____________
about sound and temperature, well I already shown the dead silent and cool FTW series for the GTX 480 water cooled GPU
rofl
Just Cause 2 isn't DX11.
MW2 doesn't use physx, and neither does AVP
nice try though.
i don't know why you're so adamant on trying to defend it when basically everyone says it's lackluster.
yeah just cause 2 is not DX11
but I don't remember where but I'm pretty sure I reed that MW2 had physX on pc
lol no, even if it does, the fps trade is not even worth it unless you have a dedicated card for physX which you can use it with ATI card.
check Dark Void benchmarks with physX on, huge fps trade for little offered.
DarkVoid PhysX is not just a little offer you know :/
its the peak of physX with the new PhysX 2 system.
I think I have posted this video quite some times by now in CEF
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Posted: Sun Mar 28, 2010 3:19 pm Post subject:
gogodr wrote:
Hero2 wrote:
Does it worth the fps loss? nope.
tahts relative, I think its worth it. even 40 fps is pretty decent to play.
40fps on a action flying game?
This is not an interactive movie like MGS4@24fps you know...
aside, everyone is having 120hz monitor now, i wouldn't be surprise if people bitch about 60fps to 120fps now. _________________
tahts relative, I think its worth it. even 40 fps is pretty decent to play.
40fps on a action flying game?
This is not an interactive movie like MGS4@24fps you know...
aside, everyone is having 120hz monitor now, i wouldn't be surprise if people bitch about 60fps to 120fps now.
Honestly, it's forty frames per second, I bet if you had the game right in front of you, and there was nothing to tell you, you would not be able to tell whether it was 40fps or 80fps. _________________
[AM]Misery wrote:
FangBanger wrote:
What is the best way for a lv19 Soldier to solo Sledge on Borderlands?
Honestly, it's forty frames per second, I bet if you had the game right in front of you, and there was nothing to tell you, you would not be able to tell whether it was 40fps or 80fps.
this is laughable
40 looks horrible compared to a solid 60+
physx is a retarded gimmick. remember that nvidia bought ageia out?
what happens when someone tries to introduce some kind of threading into the mix again? a CPU wins, once again proving what kind of stupid measures nvidia will take to try and stay relevant.
GPU physics is a dumb idea and it does nothing but cripple framerates. physics engines that aren't a pile of shit are threaded.
Honestly, it's forty frames per second, I bet if you had the game right in front of you, and there was nothing to tell you, you would not be able to tell whether it was 40fps or 80fps.
this is laughable
40 looks horrible compared to a solid 60+
physx is a retarded gimmick. remember that nvidia bought ageia out?
what happens when someone tries to introduce some kind of threading into the mix again? a CPU wins, once again proving what kind of stupid measures nvidia will take to try and stay relevant.
GPU physics is a dumb idea and it does nothing but cripple framerates. physics engines that aren't a pile of shit are threaded.
I don't really care about how the system works but from experience
using rayfire which moved from using the havok engine to use the PhysX engine it not only speedup almost twice as fast but also increased the precision since it is faster and you can increase the subsampling of the simulations more without having to worry as much for time.
so for physic calculations at least not the "in real time for games" but the baked simulations made for animations physX was a charm.
not only present there it is also present in the most wanted for almost any 3DsMax particles system designer, the Orbaz particles tool box 2. The implementation of physX was almost the best thing ever made for particles system design and simplified a lot of work it was unimaginable before.
AMD accuses Nvidia of disabling Multi Core CPU support in PhysX
Nvidia haves the right to do whatever they want with Nvidia's PhysX, AMD should just stay back and don't complain about a thing. It is like Nvidia is working to make something useful and good and AMD is doing nothing and then complaining about Nvidia doing something wrong ?
also I reed a little of that and there was a point I kind of understood from a comment. well.. if you were to use 100% of all your CPU cores to the physics simulations, what would happen to the rest of the things you need ? maybe Nvidia though that it would be more useful if it had a restriction instead of making everything else lagg too.
actually AMD is pushing forward an open solution, not closed like Physx.
nvidia obviously just gimped the engine to make their hardware look better, they already prevent certain things from functioning if ati hardware is present, so there you go.
and no, you misunderstood on the last part. they use a quad core, so physx gets 3 cores instead of 1, and the renderer gets its own core as well instead of having to share it with physx.
GTX480 got an average of 45fps
HD5870 got an average of 30fps
If a person actually get this, immediately we techs will see him as a gayfag who knows shit about computers and is a sucker for marketing BS.
FTW... should have named it FTR (for the retards)
GTX480 got an average of 45fps
HD5870 got an average of 30fps
If a person actually get this, immediately we techs will see him as a gayfag who knows shit about computers and is a sucker for marketing BS.
FTW... should have named it FTR (for the retards)
No offense of the real retards.
you gotta be very "no idea on how to describe it" to care more about the name than the performance :/
Joined: 18 Jul 2008 Posts: 2757 Location: Under ur bed
Posted: Mon Mar 29, 2010 2:09 pm Post subject:
gogodr wrote:
you gotta be very "no idea on how to describe it" to care more about the name than the performance :/
EVGA GTX480 lineup:
GTX480 Hydro Cooper FTW ($649.99)
GPU: 750MHz/RAM: 1.5GB/3800MHz
GTX480 Super Clock ($529.99)
GPU: 725MHz/RAM: 1.5GB/3800MHz
GTX480 ($499.99)
GPU: 700MHz/1.5GB/3696MHz
GTX480FTW-GTX480 Super Clock
Price difference: $120 for a mere 25MHz overclock on the GPU
GTX480FTW-GTX480
Price difference: $150 for 50MHz increase on GPU and 104MHz increase on ram
GTX480 Super Clock-GTX480
Price difference $30 for 25MHz overclock on gpu and 104MHz overclock on graphics ram.
I do care about performance, but I won't be the dumbass to fall for some marketing BS scheme (or stupid name branding) to pay that much of a difference for a minute performance increase.
Out of the 3, if I were to get one (no self manual overclocking), the Super Clock will be the best choice in terms of dollar/performance. _________________
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