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PostPosted: Tue May 22, 2007 5:00 pm    Post subject: Best Beginning Language? Reply with quote

what would you guys consider being the best language to learn first? besides vb, because that is just out of the question Laughing
i would guess delphi, but looking at ce's source got my brain buzzing too fast, so i dont know.
please tell me! Smile
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PostPosted: Tue May 22, 2007 5:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Tue May 22, 2007 5:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

are you sure? that seemed to me to be more of an integral and more advanced language...
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PostPosted: Tue May 22, 2007 5:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Learn C / C++ and you will have no problem learning any other language.
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PostPosted: Tue May 22, 2007 6:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

do you know where i could get a free IDE for either C or C++?
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PostPosted: Tue May 22, 2007 6:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

lcc for C
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PostPosted: Tue May 22, 2007 6:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i'll download that too... i found a C++ one; Dev- C++

edit: *gasp* that site has tuts! Surprised
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PostPosted: Tue May 22, 2007 6:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Whatever you do, DONT use dev-c++. I mean its a nice IDE and is good if you use it with an alternative compiler but its default backend, MinGW is awful, will produce incorrect, big, bloated executables, and will not create libraries properly. It is also outdated.
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PostPosted: Tue May 22, 2007 7:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

what would you recommend for a C++ one then?
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PostPosted: Tue May 22, 2007 7:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I can't, I dislike (and dont use) C++
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PostPosted: Tue May 22, 2007 7:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

what do you program in?
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PostPosted: Tue May 22, 2007 7:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

C or Assembly
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PostPosted: Tue May 22, 2007 7:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

cool, pure asm!

what are the apparent differences between C and C++?
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PostPosted: Tue May 22, 2007 7:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Two most significant differences is that C is more strict with syntax and C++ tries to standardize everything with its libraries (which you are forced to use, you cannot make small replacement runtimes like you can in C)
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PostPosted: Tue May 22, 2007 7:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

are there more beginner-friendly C IDE/Compilers than that lcc one? or possibly a great place to start learning C?
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