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coolsuperhackerstupidguyz Master Cheater
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Posted: Sat Apr 14, 2007 7:46 pm Post subject: How long did it take you to learn your first language? |
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Name your first and how long it took you to be able to program without looking at references constantly.
On a side note; I know there are a lot of 'What should my first language be?' topics, but I have the same question. :/
I'm generally a quick learner, I can grasp concepts and hold onto them, BUT I don't enjoy spending time doing something. I'd rather get something finished quickly then spend days on it and get it to perfection. Not a great trait, I know, but it's me.
I'll think about the finished product while working on it and just want to see it finished ASAP.
Eh, I doubt programming is something I should rush through, though.
Oh well, give me ideas!
Please?
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nox Expert Cheater
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| sounds like QBASIC is for you
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Simon_Murderface Newbie cheater
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I learned VB as soon as I learned the English language. Since they are almost the same.
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| I did spend a long time reading books, reading a lot of code and being confused, but as its happened to me and will to you, things will just "click" one day and make sense, best advice I have to you is to write programs, and read code/improve on it. Best type of a place is a forum/peer review environment, not CEF is particular though, for a number of reasons I'd rather not outline.
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Posted: Sun Apr 15, 2007 3:15 am Post subject: |
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For me... it was VB... calculator is my first application... My first game was ms-dos tic tac toe in C... My first 2D game was on director lingo... a megaman clone... my first 3d game was on C++ directx... 2D over 3D rpg game for my final year project...
but today, i am still constantly referencing api documentation and at times still be googling on some basic stuff...
I think the goal is not to memorize everything... Just know that there's something like that out there and find it when you need it... hehe...
Somehow as you go along, you get better, but you just don't remember anything... thats the case for me... It just pop up when you need it...
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| lXciD wrote: |
I think the goal is not to memorize everything... Just know that there's something like that out there and find it when you need it... hehe...
Somehow as you go along, you get better, but you just don't remember anything... thats the case for me... It just pop up when you need it... |
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ravicus Master Cheater
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Well, if you write large enough applications in any language you will spend a lot of time write AND debugging to actually make it run. But if you don't like to spend a lot of time, programming may not be for you.
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stealthy17 Expert Cheater
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If you want to save time try FreeBasic.
No hard API declaring and calling just a bunch of nice 'includes' and off you go.
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i did 2 years of mastering php after that i learned a lot of languages in a matter of days
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3 days learning asm opcodes
1 month for c++
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| I'm a slow learner.... learning ASM and C++ at the same time, since I get bored easily.
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I'm sorry. But how can you say youve learnt a language X%. You really never stop learning. Where and how do you come up with this measurement?
From Robotex's signature:
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C++ learning = 80%
Delphi learning = 30% |
I know a fair amount of languages and I know each fairly well. Yet I will NEVER say I know any language 100%. Get over it. There will always be someone better, and knows more than you.
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Posted: Thu Apr 19, 2007 5:38 pm Post subject: |
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| the_undead wrote: | | I'm sorry. But how can you say youve learnt a language X%. |
probably how much of the syntax/standard library you know
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Robotex Master Cheater
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pyr0magex Grandmaster Cheater Supreme
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Posted: Sat Apr 21, 2007 8:33 pm Post subject: |
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Well, because I wasn't really dedicated, my first language was delphi, because I was making a UCE.
Umm... It probably took me a month or two to learn the basics. But, like I said, my goal wasn't to learn delphi, it was to make some nice UCE stuff, but eventually learning and making went hand in hand sorta.
I still don't know a lot about delphi lol
Umm... Right now I'm learning C, and the later c++.
I really want to learn a lot of languages. Just for fun =p
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