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slobodanmedadadonevic
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 01, 2015 11:04 am    Post subject: CE & Uplay/Steam compatibility? Reply with quote

Hey!
I've stumbled across a little game on Uplay which I was trying to mod with CE, for single player purposes only. To make it work I obviously have to hook the process to CE, so I'm wondering if Uplay or Steam might get behind it (aka recognize Cheat Engine) and flag my account for hooking third party tools to the game. Any information on that?

Thanks in advance.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 01, 2015 11:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm a Steam users. If you are trying to cheat a VAC-enabled games (Dota 2, CS:GO, L4D, L4D2, Garry's Mod, COD, ect.) with CE, it is a 100% chance that you will receive a VAC ban and your Steam account is pretty much done.
But if you cheats games with no VAC-enabled, then you are pretty much safe. I have cheated games with no VAC-enabled a lot and so far my account is still in good standing.
So if you are trying to cheat a game on Steam, make sure it doesn't have VAC-enabled tag.

I don't think Unisoft is against cheaters (I have heard there is no anti cheat system and the supports doesn't care much about cheaters, not sure about this though) so I think it is safe to cheat single player games there.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 01, 2015 12:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If it is an online game and VAC-enabled then yes, you have to bypass it first.

If it is a single player game, cheat away to your heart's delight. There are exceptions though, Starcraft 2 banned users for cheating offline but Blizzard is really anal about cheating in their games.

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 01, 2015 12:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cheers guys, very appreciated! <3
Thankfully it's not a Valve game, so I'll give it a try soon.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 01, 2015 7:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not just Valve's games have VAC-enabled, there are still some other games like Fruitbat Factory 's "100% Orange Juice", Ronimo Games 's "Awesomenauts". So be careful. Double check it doesn't have VAC-enabled tag before cheating.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 01, 2015 7:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Also keep in mind, not just online/mutliplayer games make use of VAC. There are some single player games that use it as well.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 02, 2015 1:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Is there an easy way to see if a game has this VAC-flag?
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 02, 2015 2:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Xathan wrote:
Is there an easy way to see if a game has this VAC-flag?


In most cases you can check the games Steam store page. It will usually list that the game makes use of VAC on there. Like this:

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 02, 2015 4:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thank you very much =)

Just noticed that some of my games (around 5-7) use this. I'm just wondering that I'm not banned because I used a trainer (not CE) for Swords and Soldiers. Perhaps this flag is not always enabled or could it be pure luck? Or is VAC only enabled for multiplayer mode?

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The complete list can be found here:
http://store.steampowered.com/search/?category2=8#sort_by=Name_ASC&sort_order=ASC&category2=8&page=1
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 02, 2015 10:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Xathan wrote:
Thank you very much =)

Just noticed that some of my games (around 5-7) use this. I'm just wondering that I'm not banned because I used a trainer (not CE) for Swords and Soldiers. Perhaps this flag is not always enabled or could it be pure luck? Or is VAC only enabled for multiplayer mode?

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The complete list can be found here:
http://store.steampowered.com/search/?category2=8#sort_by=Name_ASC&sort_order=ASC&category2=8&page=1


In most cases, VAC will only be enabled on a game during multiplayer usage, however in some games VAC is loaded all the time. It is fairly hit or miss on which game does or doesn't use it full time etc. Given the rules of the forum I cannot go into detail about VAC though.

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 03, 2015 1:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

That's totally fine. Just sorted my my VAC games into a new category just do be safe. Thank you very much for your hint. Hadn't even noticed that some more games use it.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 17, 2025 1:18 pm    Post subject: Re: CE & Uplay/Steam compatibility? Reply with quote

slobodanmedadadonevic wrote:
Hey!
I've stumbled across a little game on Uplay which I was trying to mod with CE, for single player purposes only. To make it work I obviously have to hook the process to CE, so I'm wondering if Uplay or Steam might get behind it (aka recognize Cheat Engine) and flag my account for hooking third party tools to the game. Any information on that?

Thanks in advance.


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PostPosted: Thu Mar 20, 2025 11:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Question guys, doesn't DBVM prevent all ani-cheat from detecting CE ?
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 20, 2025 1:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

no. it doesn't block detection of CE out of the box. you still need to hook the kernel yourself to hide CE (using dbvm if you like)
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 20, 2025 8:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dark Byte wrote:
no. it doesn't block detection of CE out of the box. you still need to hook the kernel yourself to hide CE (using dbvm if you like)


can you please link how to do that?

thanks
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