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I have this conversation with my roommate from time to time. It's really kind of sad to think about the lives of religious people, who fear God, and think that he created this world with a set of rules and standards that they need to live by. Who think that they need to live their lives in such a way to please this all-knowing, immaterial being. Who actually set aside chunks of their own time to pray and worship to an idea of some higher power.

I get why people are religious, they're scared, they feel comforted by the idea that this whole life thing is all a part of some bigger plan, and that they are somehow important to it. (They must be important, because God made them to do something) I have talked to many religious people as to why they believe in what they believe in the face of all the reasons that there's no God and all the problems that every religion has, and when you boil it all down, there seems to be one consistent reason: They simply do not feel comfortable with the idea that living is inherently pointless.

To me, life is pointless, but not in a depressing way (i.e. "there's no reason to live"), but rather, we're not here for any kind of purpose. We weren't put here to worship a grand creator (how senseless) nor are we here to perfect ourselves in some way, nor are we here to achieve "spiritual enlightenment". Not that there's anything really wrong with doing any of these things, but it's not why we're here. We just are here, we just exist because the circumstances were right for us to be able to exist. There's nothing more to it.

However, this doesn't sit well with a lot of religious people. I've gone through the reasoning for their faith, and quite commonly I get the reply of something along the lines of "I believe because otherwise what's the point of living?" or something else in that vein. It's as if they are so against the idea that their life isn't special or meaningful in anyway that they would prefer to cling to the idea that they were created with a bigger plan in mind.

It's just sad to me for some reason. I can't imagine what it's like to live in such a way that you're constantly worried about if you're appeasing your God, to live in a constant fear that you might go to Hell after you die. To live in such a way that this world doesn't really matter, and all that matters is you earn your ticket to Heaven to finally get to a place where you can feel content all the time. Even the concepts of Heaven and Hell are so laughable to me that it's hard to remember there are people out there who genuinely believe that these two places exist for everyone after they die. Religious people are always carrying around a "fear of God" as well as a fear of Hell, and I pity them for that, because I feel like that's a lot of completely unnecessary burden.

1929394839292057839194958 · Posted: Sun Jun 12, 2016 7:33 pm Post subject:

Pretty much +1 to what you said

sasatefa2009 · Posted: Sun Jun 12, 2016 9:36 pm Post subject:

( Whoever is guided, surely he is guided only for himself; (i.e., for his own gain) and whoever errs (goes astray), then surely he errs (goes astray) only upon himself; (i.e., to his own loss) and no encumbered self will be encumbered with the encumbrance of another (self); and in no way are We tormenting (anyone) until We have sent forth a Messenger. ) Quran 17:15

Believe or not, die or live you not gonna change anything. If you wish guidance sure god will guide you, but you don't. And don't feel sad or pathetic for anyone.

even hindu and people in india who worshiping idols (about thousands of idols) they even think they are right and worshiping the right god.

finnegan waking up · Posted: Sun Jun 12, 2016 11:16 pm Post subject:

of course, you need some crutch so you can have some basis for your baseless arrogance. you get wrecked every discussion, this topic is the fruit of your butthurt

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HackOtaku · Posted: Mon Jun 13, 2016 12:22 am Post subject:

sasatefa2009 · Posted: Mon Jun 13, 2016 1:16 am Post subject:

HackOtaku · Posted: Mon Jun 13, 2016 2:16 am Post subject:

My bad, forgot not to feed the trolls.

finnegan waking up · Posted: Mon Jun 13, 2016 7:01 am Post subject:

1929394839292057839194958 · Posted: Mon Jun 13, 2016 8:15 am Post subject:

finnegan waking up · Posted: Mon Jun 13, 2016 10:05 pm Post subject:

^proof by assertion. No real argument. Meanwhile I have doctors and statistics and science and several citations showing such. Also, I see it with my own eyes. Lol, you are a child.

1929394839292057839194958 · Posted: Tue Jun 14, 2016 7:11 am Post subject: