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PostPosted: Wed Jun 08, 2016 7:57 pm    Post subject: Thoughts on Trump v Hillary Reply with quote

Now that Hillary has secured the win (for all intents and purposes), it's definitely going to be Trump v Hillary unless something major happens. (i.e. Unlikely indictment) So now we have to honestly ask between these two who we want.

On one hand, we have Hillary, a puppet of big industry, and commonplace political corruption. She's so ingrained in the system she is just a part of it. She is likely to maintain the status quo, with being in favor of the current "liberal agenda". She's also likely to keep all the corruption the same, all the money flowing, pass the TPP, etc. She's basically offering four more years of Obama.

I feel like her victory is more or less secured, the republican party has been so split between themselves and has lost general appeal overall. I find it very unlikely to see Trump winning the election, and I am pretty sure Hillary is the bitter pill that we are going to be forced to swallow. It won't be so bad, but it will be bad. I don't think anyone can say the Obama years were particularly stellar, but there was a bit of progress made. It'll be like nothing has changed, America will just keep exploiting its people and tearing down the integrity of its congress. Business as usual, it sucks, but there are a lot of good things about America in general that it's hard to be too up in arms about the circumstances.

Then we have Trump, who is a complete outsider to the inner working of politics. He isn't in anyone's pocket, he's just a mega-rich, well known celebrity who knows how to play the media. He is a smart man, but extremely egotistical and doesn't try to hide it. His campaign has ran on big talk and generally avoidance of subjects, but somehow he has managed to destroy an entire generation of republican leaders in an election. He claims to have republican views, but he has switched camps time and time again, and it's so unclear what his actual views are.

In my opinion, he's just a wildcard. I feel like he's not at all the person who he masquerades as in the public spotlight. He knows he has to do it, he knows it's what "works" and if it works, he will play it to his advantage. This is exactly why he seems so bigoted and hot-headed, he's pumping up the crowd and trying to get them excited for him. He says outlandish things so the media will carry his name for him. Everyone talked about the Trump campaign, he saved a fortune in advertising just by lacking "political correctness", and at times, just general tact.

He knows how to play people and the media, that's how his entire fortune was made. Playing people might be handy in congress, but he lacks experience in any kind of congressional duty. He has never "served the people" in any kind of official capacity, so how can we vote him into office? He wouldn't know how to deal with foreign affairs, actual economy problems, social problems, and the myriad of other things that come with being president.

When it comes down to it, both candidates are shit. I am aware that people claim it is my civic duty to vote, but when it might as well be a coin flip, I hardly feel like voting at all. I don't want things to stay the same, and it's too dangerous to let an untested man into the office of the president. I don't want to pick either, and as such, really don't care who the winner is. As far as I can tell, Clinton has this in the bag by a long shot, though.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 08, 2016 8:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I said Clinton would win the 2016 presidency before the campaigns even started


It's really easy, you gotta know the trick. You see who has money from Wall St, it was Jeb Bush and Clinton. With Jeb out of the race, Wall St. will make sure that Clinton wins

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 08, 2016 8:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I said Clinton would win the 2016 presidency before the campaigns even started


It's really easy, you gotta know the trick. You see who has money from Wall St, it was Jeb Bush and Clinton. With Jeb out of the race, Wall St. will make sure that Clinton wins
Yeah, I didn't have much faith that anything would happen. It was an interesting campaign season, but they more or less assured she'd get this back in 2012.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 08, 2016 8:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm getting the results I exactly wanted.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 08, 2016 9:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

waiting for kyle to give us his enlightened predictions and opinions. oh wise one what will happen now? what more accurate predictions are you going to make?
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 08, 2016 11:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just so you know 7 have won the nominee who didn't have the most delegates. #ContestedConvention
politifact.com/wisconsin/statements/2016/apr/15/john-kasich/7-times-delegate-leader-wasnt-one-who-got-gop-nomi/

Don't give up on our candidate yet just because of the election fraud. Although this is for GOP which is likely as well it is more favorable for the DNC this election since Sanders is the only one who can beat Trump. Many sanders supporters will now vote Trump because of all the fraud.

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 09, 2016 6:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Just so you know 7 have won the nominee who didn't have the most delegates. #ContestedConvention
politifact.com/wisconsin/statements/2016/apr/15/john-kasich/7-times-delegate-leader-wasnt-one-who-got-gop-nomi/

Don't give up on our candidate yet just because of the election fraud. Although this is for GOP which is likely as well it is more favorable for the DNC this election since Sanders is the only one who can beat Trump. Many sanders supporters will now vote Trump because of all the fraud.

It might be unfair, but it's not fraud. Rules were rules from the beginning of each season.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 09, 2016 6:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't care what happens at this point in our current political climate, it's rigged. The democratic convention is gonna get blown up by protest.


Besides that, you all will reap what you have sown, Whether you voted for the candidate you believe in or didn't vote period. No point in getting frustrated over what you know will happen.

To put it simply, Antagonist is a fucking retard, there isn't too much more to say about him other than that. He doesn't think for himself, he lets a ridiculous cartoon personality strongman be his idol and voice by voting for him. I mean you could go on and on about how he supports the worst presidential candidate (the biggest pathological liar I've ever seen) in history with plenty of reasons why but that doesn't do anything to help his delusion.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 09, 2016 7:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I feel like Hillary is more of a pathological liar than Trump being that she's been in the public eye for much longer and has been lying HEAVILY the whole time
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 09, 2016 8:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I feel like Hillary is more of a pathological liar than Trump being that she's been in the public eye for much longer and has been lying HEAVILY the whole time

They are both extreme pathological liars and it's fair to say they are both scum of the earth and deserve to be in prison for one reason or another. Both have been publically accused of Federal Racketeering.


https://www.facebook.com/berniesanders/videos/925757774145894/

those of you that have been arguing against bernie, you're arguing against your own best interest, you just don't even begin to understand it. He's been arguing for you since before you were born.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 09, 2016 4:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

PSA; i'm not American.

How in the heavenly father fuck are you Americans even going to GIVE Donald Trump or HILLARY FUCKING CLINTON the chance to BECOME PRESIDENT..

WHAAAAAAAAT
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Had to get that off my chest. All in all, good luck America.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 09, 2016 4:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Coldie ;] wrote:
PSA; i'm not American.

How in the heavenly father fuck are you Americans even going to GIVE Donald Trump or HILLARY FUCKING CLINTON the chance to BECOME PRESIDENT..

WHAAAAAAAAT
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Had to get that off my chest. All in all, good luck America.

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 09, 2016 6:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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BreakinGods wrote:
Just so you know 7 have won the nominee who didn't have the most delegates. #ContestedConvention
politifact.com/wisconsin/statements/2016/apr/15/john-kasich/7-times-delegate-leader-wasnt-one-who-got-gop-nomi/

Don't give up on our candidate yet just because of the election fraud. Although this is for GOP which is likely as well it is more favorable for the DNC this election since Sanders is the only one who can beat Trump. Many sanders supporters will now vote Trump because of all the fraud.

It might be unfair, but it's not fraud. Rules were rules from the beginning of each season.
Yes it is fraud. The machines are always in favor of Clinton in exit polls compared to votes, they are handing out provisional ballots which may or may not be counted to people who request a cross over or dem ballot, and they reduced the polling stations so people would lose patience and leave... there are many more examples.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 09, 2016 8:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

BreakinGods wrote:
Waxxup wrote:
BreakinGods wrote:
Just so you know 7 have won the nominee who didn't have the most delegates. #ContestedConvention
politifact.com/wisconsin/statements/2016/apr/15/john-kasich/7-times-delegate-leader-wasnt-one-who-got-gop-nomi/

Don't give up on our candidate yet just because of the election fraud. Although this is for GOP which is likely as well it is more favorable for the DNC this election since Sanders is the only one who can beat Trump. Many sanders supporters will now vote Trump because of all the fraud.

It might be unfair, but it's not fraud. Rules were rules from the beginning of each season.
Yes it is fraud. The machines are always in favor of Clinton in exit polls compared to votes, they are handing out provisional ballots which may or may not be counted to people who request a cross over or dem ballot, and they reduced the polling stations so people would lose patience and leave... there are many more examples.

If it were trump being fucked by the system, he would be voicing dis concern. But he's a fucking idiot, and he has no principles regardless of how and who the system is fucking. You just can't respect fucking retards with no sense of conscious thought.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 09, 2016 9:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I don't care what happens at this point in our current political climate, it's rigged. The democratic convention is gonna get blown up by protest.


Besides that, you all will reap what you have sown, Whether you voted for the candidate you believe in or didn't vote period. No point in getting frustrated over what you know will happen.

To put it simply, Antagonist is a fucking retard, there isn't too much more to say about him other than that. He doesn't think for himself, he lets a ridiculous cartoon personality strongman be his idol and voice by voting for him. I mean you could go on and on about how he supports the worst presidential candidate (the biggest pathological liar I've ever seen) in history with plenty of reasons why but that doesn't do anything to help his delusion.


> he doesn't think for himself

WOW DON'T U FKN GET IT. BERNIE IS THE ONLY ANSWER YOU FKN RETARD. NOT VOTING FOR HIM WOULD BE VOTE AGAINST YOUR INTEREST. PEOPLE ARE FKN STUPID

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