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BringChaos Advanced Cheater
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Posted: Thu Apr 07, 2016 8:33 pm Post subject: |
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It was the court that decided
"There is strong evidence of tacit agreement by the parties…to employ the Polish workers and to deprive them of the benefits ordinarily accorded to non-union workers on a union job, including contributions to the funds based on their wages."
I'm not saying anything only quoting that the court provided within reason that Trump was aware and was at fault.
Try reading an accurate document instead of listening to fairies.
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Posted: Thu Apr 07, 2016 8:35 pm Post subject: |
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BringChaos wrote: | It was the court that decided
"There is strong evidence of tacit agreement by the parties…to employ the Polish workers and to deprive them of the benefits ordinarily accorded to non-union workers on a union job, including contributions to the funds based on their wages."
I'm not saying anything only quoting that the court provided within reason that Trump was aware and was at fault.
Try reading an accurate document instead of listening to fairies. |
Speaking about fairies, read Sanders policies
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BringChaos Advanced Cheater
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Posted: Thu Apr 07, 2016 8:42 pm Post subject: |
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Deflection, displacement and disengagement. I can see why you see light in words that run from the issue.
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Posted: Thu Apr 07, 2016 8:54 pm Post subject: |
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Sounds like your argument no?
Your criticisms against Trump are minuscule details that essentially every successful person has had occurrences with. Not of the same specific circumstances obviously but you uphold Trump as somebody who needs to be a saint.
You take a look at his negatives oh but his successes NO WE DONT MENTION THAT.
We don't mention he was the leader in fighting for equality for women. We don't mention he created thousands of jobs. We don't mention that he has donated to 26 charities. We don't mention about how when Obama never cared about the veteran who was tortured and imprisoned in Cuba, never made a phone call or attempted to get him released, Trump did and sent him a check to help get his life back together. We don't mention about when airports denied this sick jewish boy to get him to where he needs for medical attention, he let him use his plane. We don't mention about Trump saving a farm from foreclosure. And a grocery list of other good deeds and successes.
But we mention the the as 4 bankruptcies. We mention about his Trump U. We mention about Trump steaks. and Trump mortgages.
Yeah get a grip pal.
How about you mention Sanders 3% success rate in legislation despite him being in congress for 25+ years.
How about we mention that Sanders wants to INCREASE taxes, therefore government increasing CONTROL over people.
How about Sanders want more taxes when he can't handle his donors money. 40% behind in delegates. Used up 88% of his campaign money already.
How are people going to have confidence in paying more taxes when he can't handle his campaign finances? How about HIS PERSONAL finances? He's what 20k in credit card debt?
Trump spent 1/3rd of what Sanders has spent, and YIELDS 40% more results than him.
Yeah buddy. Sanders we have total confidence he will run America well. We have total confidence he will do what he says he will.
OH BUT SANDERS IS A GOOD SAMARITAN HES BEEN FIGHTING FOR INCOME EQUALITY. HES BEEN FOR THE PEOPLE ALL HIS LIFE.
BUT he hasn't produced shit. He hasn't done shit. He has essentially been a loser all his life who wasn't good at anything. Not even his job.
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Posted: Thu Apr 07, 2016 8:56 pm Post subject: |
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You're just praising how he takes advantage of a broken and corrupt system to give himself more attention. He's just an attention whore through and through.
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Antagonist Cheater
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Posted: Thu Apr 07, 2016 8:58 pm Post subject: |
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Channel GannoK wrote: | You're just praising how he takes advantage of a broken and corrupt system to give himself more attention. He's just an attention whore through and through. |
Hey at least you have one pal on your side that brings logical arguments. Im still waiting for Breakinggods and Talix
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Posted: Thu Apr 07, 2016 10:21 pm Post subject: |
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How about you mention Sanders 3% success rate in legislation despite him being in congress for 25+ years.
- What are you talking about? I haven't seen anything saying 3% or anything close to that? I would like a real source for that, honestly.
How about we mention that Sanders wants to INCREASE taxes, therefore government increasing CONTROL over people.
- Have you actually taken a look at his tax plan? Its not as simple as increasing % on peoples pay stubs. He wants to end the tax-free locations such as Panama, while trying to close loop holes that where created for the rich. Taxing wall-street speculation, along with ending the bailouts and adding a payroll tax. Hes trying to get corporations to help contribute to the society, instead of just fattening their own bank accounts.
How about Sanders want more taxes when he can't handle his donors money. 40% behind in delegates. Used up 88% of his campaign money already.
- His money is the most honest money a politician can get. He has broken records with all of his supports backing him. He is trying to win the DNC nomination, he needs to spend his money to keep getting more supporters. Hes behind like you said, can't just sit around on all of his donations.
How are people going to have confidence in paying more taxes when he can't handle his campaign finances? How about HIS PERSONAL finances? He's what 20k in credit card debt?
- Look at what the average debt of a US citizen is, $15,000.00. Its almost impossible to not have debt in this country. He has over 7 million individual contributions to his campaign. That is a lot of auditing his campaign has to do, this is his first time campaigning for POTUS. Its a little new.
Trump spent 1/3rd of what Sanders has spent, and YIELDS 40% more results than him.
- Trump is plastered on every single MSM channel, news site and organization. He gets live coverage 24/7, he doesn't need to spend any money because of the attention he garners plus Trump was already a big figure in the business and entertainment industry.
Yeah buddy. Sanders we have total confidence he will run America well. We have total confidence he will do what he says he will.
- I have more confidence in a guy who has had a great voting record for his 25+ years in office then a man who has no experience in politics.
OH BUT SANDERS IS A GOOD SAMARITAN HES BEEN FIGHTING FOR INCOME EQUALITY. HES BEEN FOR THE PEOPLE ALL HIS LIFE.
BUT he hasn't produced shit. He hasn't done shit. He has essentially been a loser all his life who wasn't good at anything. Not even his job.
- Are you serious? Look up his voting record and what he has done for his state of Vermont. He has been on the correct side of almost every issue, equal rights, gay marriage, the Iraq war, the bailout, and most recently Panama.
In truth, I admire how Trump has revamped the GOP and turned it on its head. How he has been able to get such a large base of supporters and die hard fans; but that doesn't matter to me when I think about the guy I want to run this country. I want someone I can relate to, somebody that knows and understand the struggles of the average person. Bernie isn't perfect, hes had plenty of mistakes but so has every other person in this world. I doubt he can pass universal health care, and free public college tuition, but if he can help end the corruption inside the senate, lower the cost of college, healthcare while trying to rebuild our infrastructure I would be happy with that.
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Posted: Thu Apr 07, 2016 10:28 pm Post subject: |
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No point in arguing with you antagonist you're dumb as rocks. I still think you're just trolling as well because no one could be that delusional, so I wouldn't be surprised if you were a closet bernie supporter.
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Posted: Thu Apr 07, 2016 10:34 pm Post subject: |
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BreakinGods wrote: | No point in arguing with you antagonist you're dumb as rocks. I still think you're just trolling as well because no one could be that delusional, so I wouldn't be surprised if you were a closet bernie supporter. |
Man, let him support who he wants. Its his right, and its your right to disagree with him and fight about it. That wont help change his output or feelings, it will just feed the flames and push people away from your voice. Im not defending Trump but if you want to change someones opinion you need to have a real discussion with the person. Let them resort to name calling or insults.
Who cares if hes trolling, I bet you feel more support for Bernie when people slander you and insult you for liking him. Embrace the hate dude, lol.
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Posted: Thu Apr 07, 2016 10:36 pm Post subject: |
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zzzz where were u guys 4 months ago. i have to keep repeating my points and sources over and over again.
First point on the 3% thing:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2015/08/09/which-2016-candidate-was-the-most-effective-legislator/
everything you said about closing loopholes and wall street speculation, Trump is planning to do that as well.
As far as corporations go, they contribute more to society than majority of American society. They create jobs, they stimulate the economy, they provide opportunities.
One example:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/ge-ceo-bernie-sanders-says-were-destroying-the-moral-fabric-of-america-hes-wrong/2016/04/06/8499bc8c-fc23-11e5-80e4-c381214de1a3_story.html?tid=sm_fb
And thats the problem he gets his money from average people and he's doing his best to spend it unwisely. I study financial models. Thats what I love to do. Thats my hobby. I read SEC files and I like to project. I'll post a data on campaign spendings and all that when its finished. Clinton has spent much less than Sanders has. Sanders spent much more only to be behind. And he has ways to go. What you mentioned isn't an argument or a viable argument.
This PERSONAL CREDIT CARD debt. Nobody has a CREDIT CARD debt that high. Key word: CREDIT
You're saying Sanders can't do the same? Each candidate has the same opportunities to get on media. They deny them.
So you have confidence in a guy who has been in politics for 25+ years who has created no jobs, who has essentially done nothing. I mean you can argue he's the amendment king and all that. but I mean seriously. Over a guy who has created wealth in this country, who does all his projects UNDER BUDGET and AHEAD OF SCHEDULE. 7 or 8 months in the political ring, and already far ahead. Experience? Or competency? You pick. My friend has played league of legends since it came out so like maybe 6+ years? Pro players 2 years. silly example maybe but we can do a lot.
And Trump hasn't? And no he's a flip flopper on war.
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Posted: Thu Apr 07, 2016 10:41 pm Post subject: |
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Antagonist wrote: | zzzz where were u guys 4 months ago. i have to keep repeating my points and sources over and over again. |
I just have a question, if you see Bernie as a loser and a non-contender since he is so far behind like you said then why do you bother even arguing about it with people? If you view him as such a non-threat why waste your time responding to criticism?
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Posted: Thu Apr 07, 2016 10:53 pm Post subject: |
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Mtn Dew wrote: | Antagonist wrote: | zzzz where were u guys 4 months ago. i have to keep repeating my points and sources over and over again. |
I just have a question, if you see Bernie as a loser and a non-contender since he is so far behind like you said then why do you bother even arguing about it with people? If you view him as such a non-threat why waste your time responding to criticism? |
I replied above. And I don't Im defending Trump and his record. If you see the threads over the past whatever months. Ive posted maybe 1-2 thread about Bernie and they're only memes. I only reply to defend Trump. if there are no Trump threads. I would not post here. It just so happens that the opposition likes Bernie and compares Bernie to Trump thats why I talk about Bernie. Otherwise Im a ghost here and would just attend to my hobbies.
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apologies if my replies sound dull but when you're arguing against brain dead like Kyle Breakinggods and Talix it kinda sets the image for Sanders supporters.
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Posted: Fri Apr 08, 2016 4:27 am Post subject: |
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normally this thing wouldn't matter much, you know, if you weren't running for president
or at the very least were admitting you knew nothing about it instead of demonising the object of your ignorance
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Posted: Fri Apr 08, 2016 11:01 am Post subject: |
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I feel like you kind of dodged my question Antagonist. I'm not asking about the environment or what you think about it, I'm asking what the excuse is for him making up a fucking department.
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Posted: Fri Apr 08, 2016 11:39 am Post subject: |
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konr wrote: | I feel like you kind of dodged my question Antagonist. I'm not asking about the environment or what you think about it, I'm asking what the excuse is for him making up a fucking department. |
Well like I said, I don't know anything about the environment I can't make up an argument for it. That's why I wasn't familiar that he made up a department either. I didn't know if "D.E.P" or "Department of Environment" existed or not. I didn't pay attention to that specifically. He was making an argument that there are environmental laws that hinders and makes it harder for us to compete with other countries. It sounds like it makes sense to me and again, I don't know and I don't pretend to know. As far as why he made it up? I don't know either, I'm not him, I can't read his mind, but its not like its a make or break factor. You gotta understand this guy sleeps 4 hours a day. The week before WI, he had rallies 3x a day on top of interviews and Im sure strategic sessions with his campaign. Maybe he's tired? Why he might have blurted that out? Why does it matter? He had a valid argument. Is there a department in the government that handles environment regulation? Never mind departments, are there regulations the government upholds on businesses as far as environment wise? Thats what he was arguing about. Im not sure if its a valid argument since again Im not an expert in environment. But give me a break. The man works multiple folds harder than Sanders, this session was at the end of the day, Im sure he's already exhausted by then. Why are you so obsessed with every little thing he says? When he says something wrong, that essentially doesn't matter. Like this one. It's like you struck oil. There are a lot of things Sanders has said that has been questionable. You don't see me bring it up? Would you like me to?
Like when he said white people can't be poor
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when he was questioned about veterans dying and he said oh people die everyday
amongst other things, these are just top of my head. You don't see me criticizing him for it.
But when Trump makes up a department everybody goes nuts huh?
give me a break lol
@Mtn Dew: I have a lot of criticisms against Sanders if you wanna know the truth on the viability of his policies etc. because a lot of them makes 0 sense at all. It sounds nice, but it makes no sense.
I haven't posted them. If you want me to post it and discuss about it Im welcome to but as far as with Kyle I know he doesn't have the brains to. Thats why I don't post it.
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