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emil
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| Antagonist wrote: | | Talix is the reason why people want to put a temp ban on Muslim until we figure out a vaccine for this defect |
temp muslim immigration ban is probably the trump policy which makes me smh the most. even disregarding the blatant islamophobia, it's unrealistic to even fulfill its purpose with all the illegal immigration
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| Emil wrote: | | Antagonist wrote: | | Talix is the reason why people want to put a temp ban on Muslim until we figure out a vaccine for this defect |
temp muslim immigration ban is probably the trump policy which makes me smh the most. even disregarding the blatant islamophobia, it's unrealistic to even fulfill its purpose with all the illegal immigration |
Poll of 500 muslim asks if it's okay to be a homo all said no
http://www.theguardian.com/uk/2009/may/07/muslims-britain-france-germany-homosexuality
There's something wrong there and I don't think it's a bad idea to do a temp ban.
Plus it's easily doable and within legal bounds.
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| Antagonist wrote: | | Emil wrote: | | Antagonist wrote: | | Talix is the reason why people want to put a temp ban on Muslim until we figure out a vaccine for this defect |
temp muslim immigration ban is probably the trump policy which makes me smh the most. even disregarding the blatant islamophobia, it's unrealistic to even fulfill its purpose with all the illegal immigration |
Poll of 500 muslim asks if it's okay to be a homo all said no
http://www.theguardian.com/uk/2009/may/07/muslims-britain-france-germany-homosexuality
There's something wrong there and I don't think it's a bad idea to do a temp ban.
Plus it's easily doable and within legal bounds. |
i'm not going to go into a discussion about the validity of those statistics whether they're truthful or not, they're actually irrelevant. just because a large portion of muslims could be fundementalists doesn't justify singling all muslims out as a group, and besides that doing so won't help stop actual terrorist cells because a) they're already there and b) they can easily be smuggled in
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I understand what you mean by not singling out an entire group. Thing is. They have other places they can go. Qatar, Kuwait, and plenty of other gulf states that are rich and are not accepting these refugees. So why do they have to come here to U.S? The Quran also advices Muslims not to go to any non Muslims countries. So they don't really wanna be here to begin with. Their religious text says not to go here. And it doesn't make sense for them to come here anyways when there are other places they can go. Maybe they're here already doesn't mean we continue letting them in. They can't be easily smuggled in when they can't come here to begin with. It's actually really hard for them to come here. Unless you're talking about illegal immigration from the southern border.
Also they're all from pew research. You can go look them up yourself in their official website.
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| Antagonist wrote: | I understand what you mean by not singling out an entire group. Thing is. They have other places they can go. Qatar, Kuwait, and plenty of other gulf states that are rich and are not accepting these refugees. So why do they have to come here to U.S? The Quran also advices Muslims not to go to any non Muslims countries. So they don't really wanna be here to begin with. Their religious text says not to go here. And it doesn't make sense for them to come here anyways when there are other places they can go. Maybe they're here already doesn't mean we continue letting them in. They can't be easily smuggled in when they can't come here to begin with. It's actually really hard for them to come here. Unless you're talking about illegal immigration from the southern border.
Also they're all from pew research. You can go look them up yourself in their official website. |
seems to me you're not acknowledging that muslims are a diverse group of people, some of which actually want to live in a secular society with western values. what it says in the koran hardly matters, all religious texts are self contradictory and as a religious person you have to cherry pick some verses and disregard others. terrorists (who typically aren't very good muslims btw) are going to find a way into america even if you ban all people who speak arabic, if you want to get rid of those you're going to have to deal with the cause of terrorism and not the effect.
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If we're going to be looking at data from a shithole like Africa, you should know that even people who are NOT Muslims in those countries are conservative and backwards as hell
It's like holding Christians in North America accountable for Uganda
Lame as fuck
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| Emil wrote: | | Antagonist wrote: | I understand what you mean by not singling out an entire group. Thing is. They have other places they can go. Qatar, Kuwait, and plenty of other gulf states that are rich and are not accepting these refugees. So why do they have to come here to U.S? The Quran also advices Muslims not to go to any non Muslims countries. So they don't really wanna be here to begin with. Their religious text says not to go here. And it doesn't make sense for them to come here anyways when there are other places they can go. Maybe they're here already doesn't mean we continue letting them in. They can't be easily smuggled in when they can't come here to begin with. It's actually really hard for them to come here. Unless you're talking about illegal immigration from the southern border.
Also they're all from pew research. You can go look them up yourself in their official website. |
seems to me you're not acknowledging that muslims are a diverse group of people, some of which actually want to live in a secular society with western values. what it says in the koran hardly matters, all religious texts are self contradictory and as a religious person you have to cherry pick some verses and disregard others. terrorists (who typically aren't very good muslims btw) are going to find a way into america even if you ban all people who speak arabic, if you want to get rid of those you're going to have to deal with the cause of terrorism and not the effect. |
I am. Another point is also that these people are not Americans. They're not here to stay. They're here for safety which can be done elsewhere without coming here to US. You're saying as if they're going to come to here to become US citizens when they're going back and many of them want to go back as well. Basically why do we have to take care of them when their neighboring countries who are Muslims have the obligation according to the Quran to help their people? Second of all why do they have to come here to the US? All logical reasons don't point that they have to be here in the US. We can build safe zones in the Gulf stares as we have suggested. We can do a million different things. Why do they have to come here? And why do we have to risk the safety of American people for people who aren't american? Even if not all of them are risks. 1 person out of 1000 who are dangerous I still not a good ratio.
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Hello. My name is ThelndianGuy, and I just want to let you know, I did not read this post.
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| Antagonist wrote: | | Emil wrote: | | Antagonist wrote: | I understand what you mean by not singling out an entire group. Thing is. They have other places they can go. Qatar, Kuwait, and plenty of other gulf states that are rich and are not accepting these refugees. So why do they have to come here to U.S? The Quran also advices Muslims not to go to any non Muslims countries. So they don't really wanna be here to begin with. Their religious text says not to go here. And it doesn't make sense for them to come here anyways when there are other places they can go. Maybe they're here already doesn't mean we continue letting them in. They can't be easily smuggled in when they can't come here to begin with. It's actually really hard for them to come here. Unless you're talking about illegal immigration from the southern border.
Also they're all from pew research. You can go look them up yourself in their official website. |
seems to me you're not acknowledging that muslims are a diverse group of people, some of which actually want to live in a secular society with western values. what it says in the koran hardly matters, all religious texts are self contradictory and as a religious person you have to cherry pick some verses and disregard others. terrorists (who typically aren't very good muslims btw) are going to find a way into america even if you ban all people who speak arabic, if you want to get rid of those you're going to have to deal with the cause of terrorism and not the effect. |
I am. Another point is also that these people are not Americans. They're not here to stay. They're here for safety which can be done elsewhere without coming here to US. You're saying as if they're going to come to here to become US citizens when they're going back and many of them want to go back as well. Basically why do we have to take care of them when their neighboring countries who are Muslims have the obligation according to the Quran to help their people? Second of all why do they have to come here to the US? All logical reasons don't point that they have to be here in the US. We can build safe zones in the Gulf stares as we have suggested. We can do a million different things. Why do they have to come here? And why do we have to risk the safety of American people for people who aren't american? Even if not all of them are risks. 1 person out of 1000 who are dangerous I still not a good ratio. |
good point, but the problem is that trump's proposal would also affect ordinary muslims who want to immigrate for eg. work opportunities and actually assimiliate into american culture. however absolutely agree with your stance on asylum seekers. your figure of 1 in 1000 must be overblown though, i don't believe the actual figures of potential terrorists in muslim immigrant groups to be anywhere near that. also you do realize that the leading cause of death for americans isn't terrorism? it's car crashes. good to keep in mind amid the media hype.
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Itt: people who have very little to no experience with Muslims nor Muslim friends, as well as bigots who are truly the boogeymen. ppl shariah is the reason Muslims protest life sentences in the states for severe hate crimes. shariah is personally implemented wtf is wrong with the 10 commandments? U don't like laws against theft, adultery, and murder? am I in nazi germany because even our vets and still tattooed Jews have stood in Our solidarity with the Ummah and Peace!
Allah provides! Islam is as a tree planted by a stream with great firmament; it bears fruit in season and it's leaf does not wither! Your hatred and willful ignorance, ignominy and disgust shall wither, decay and fade!
Allahu Akbar!
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| I weep for a country who's best option is Donald Trump as it's president. Enjoy your corporately run 'democracy'.
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| greatsage wrote: | Itt: people who have very little to no experience with Muslims nor Muslim friends, as well as bigots who are truly the boogeymen. ppl shariah is the reason Muslims protest life sentences in the states for severe hate crimes. shariah is personally implemented wtf is wrong with the 10 commandments? U don't like laws against theft, adultery, and murder? am I in nazi germany because even our vets and still tattooed Jews have stood in Our solidarity with the Ummah and Peace!
Allah provides! Islam is as a tree planted by a stream with great firmament; it bears fruit in season and it's leaf does not wither! Your hatred and willful ignorance, ignominy and disgust shall wither, decay and fade!
Allahu Akbar! |
shariah is also the reason saudi arabia has public beheadings and amputations buddy
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| Emil wrote: | | greatsage wrote: | Itt: people who have very little to no experience with Muslims nor Muslim friends, as well as bigots who are truly the boogeymen. ppl shariah is the reason Muslims protest life sentences in the states for severe hate crimes. shariah is personally implemented wtf is wrong with the 10 commandments? U don't like laws against theft, adultery, and murder? am I in nazi germany because even our vets and still tattooed Jews have stood in Our solidarity with the Ummah and Peace!
Allah provides! Islam is as a tree planted by a stream with great firmament; it bears fruit in season and it's leaf does not wither! Your hatred and willful ignorance, ignominy and disgust shall wither, decay and fade!
Allahu Akbar! |
shariah is also the reason saudi arabia has public beheadings and amputations buddy |
does anyone wanna find me an article on the countries that employ the death penalty?
Shariah just appoints it to divine law. It also works pretty well, not that I agree with it (and not that criminals don't either... Obviously, they're who complain as they're affected by it, like they want a lax treatment for larceny or murder?)
there are a lot of exceptions to Shariah. it is personal & communal & very similar to other courts. It is not as if this originates or is exclusive to Shariah.
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| Aniblaze wrote: | | I weep for a country who's best option is Donald Trump as it's president. Enjoy your corporately run 'democracy'. |
Sounds about business as usual for America.
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| HackOtaku wrote: | | Aniblaze wrote: | | I weep for a country who's best option is Donald Trump as it's president. Enjoy your corporately run 'democracy'. |
Sounds about business as usual for America. |
This attitude & level of ignorance and complacency puts the biggest smile on the Rothschilds.
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