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Advanced methods of finding values

 
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Zeroblue
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 11, 2015 12:44 am    Post subject: Advanced methods of finding values Reply with quote

What are some more complex/reliable methods to find a value I am looking for?

Here's what I know:

-It's address changes whenever the value changes
-The stored value is not identical to what is actually displayed

Suggestions?
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 11, 2015 12:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Give up. Find some other value related to the object.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 11, 2015 12:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

[quote="Zanzer"]Give up. Find some other value related to the object.[/quote]

I don't know where to start with that. The value I am trying to find here is money, if that helps.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 11, 2015 12:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

what kind of game ? As long as it's not an online game,then I might can help.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 11, 2015 12:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

[quote="Cake-san"]what kind of game ? As long as it's not an online game,then I might can help.[/quote]

It is an online game but I am playing in its offline mode.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 11, 2015 1:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If the value changes addresses each time, you could try:
http://forum.cheatengine.org/viewtopic.php?p=5624204#5624204

If the value doesn't match what is displayed, you could try:
Unknown initial value. Changed value. Unchanged value.

If both are true, give up.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 11, 2015 1:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I suspect both are true but I am not sure.

I can do a string scan and find the value in question, but the strings no longer read that value once it has changed. They simply read gibberish at that point, and there are a few new strings that read the new value. This suggests that it changes every time.

Doing a scan for all value types does not return the value I am looking for in any case. Changed/Unchanged does not yield the value I need. This again suggests it could change every time or it could mean that the value is stored differently that what it is displayed as.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 11, 2015 1:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

What game ?
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 11, 2015 1:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

[quote="Cake-san"]What game ?[/quote]

ED, the space game. First google result. I don't want to say the full name otherwise it will come up in searches and people will tie my name to hacking lol
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 11, 2015 1:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sorry,can't help.the game is way too big for me to download it using my internet connection Sad
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 11, 2015 1:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

[quote="Cake-san"]Sorry,can't help.the game is to big for me to download it using my internet connection :([/quote]

Is there anything else you can suggest for me to try?
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