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I can't change the values! in CE

 
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alhjri
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 20, 2014 11:47 am    Post subject: I can't change the values! in CE Reply with quote

hi there,


as the title... when I want to change values in some processes with Cheat Engines , it does not change at all .



I think that the process which I want to edit, is protected or something
I can't even run the debugger for it


I will appreciate your help Smile
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cashd
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 20, 2014 12:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

maybe you attach cheat engine to the wrong process?
what message you get when you try open debugger?
and the title of that msgbox is Themida in any chance?
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 20, 2014 12:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

if its online game then forget it. else you might have found the display value
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alhjri
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 20, 2014 1:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

NanoByte wrote:
if its online game then forget it. else you might have found the display value

no it's offline game,
I can play it offline



cashd wrote:
maybe you attach cheat engine to the wrong process?
what message you get when you try open debugger?
and the title of that msgbox is Themida in any chance?


I know how to use it, I have hacked so many games ,but I faced this problem


I get this message when try to debug:



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PostPosted: Fri Jun 20, 2014 1:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

alhjri wrote:
NanoByte wrote:
if its online game then forget it. else you might have found the display value

no it's offline game,
I can play it offline



cashd wrote:
maybe you attach cheat engine to the wrong process?
what message you get when you try open debugger?
and the title of that msgbox is Themida in any chance?


I know how to use it, I have hacked so many games ,but I faced this problem


I get this message when try to debug:


Go to settings/Debugger options and enable the use of the VEH debugger (in the debugger method).
Hope this helps.
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alhjri
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 21, 2014 2:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Redone wrote:
Go to settings/Debugger options and enable the use of the VEH debugger (in the debugger method).



I think the process is protected in memory or something Sad

I got this :



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PostPosted: Sat Jun 21, 2014 8:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

try restarting computer
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alhjri
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 22, 2014 6:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

NanoByte wrote:
try restarting computer


now I found that the process is protected, it's read only in memory!

how do I make it writable ?
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 22, 2014 6:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

alhjri wrote:
NanoByte wrote:
try restarting computer


now I found that the process is protected, it's read only in memory!

how do I make it writable ?


Try this:
open the memory viewer,click ctrl+A,then tyoe 'fullaccess(address,size)' where address is the address where your block starts,and size is the size of your block.

Otherwise,you could maybe create a thread and call VirtualProtect from inside the process,of course passing the correct arguments.
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 22, 2014 10:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Redone wrote:
Try this:
open the memory viewer,click ctrl+A,then tyoe 'fullaccess(address,size)' where address is the address where your block starts,and size is the size of your block.

Otherwise,you could maybe create a thread and call VirtualProtect from inside the process,of course passing the correct arguments.


I really didn't understand anything
im alittle noob

I just want to change it from (read only) to (read & write)

can you explain easier? Sad
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 22, 2014 10:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Maybe use the Kernel Debugger (Settings->Debugger Options->Use kernelmode Debugger (Requires DBVM)

also try Read/write process memory ( in the Settings->Extra )
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 22, 2014 10:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

alhjri wrote:
Redone wrote:
Try this:
open the memory viewer,click ctrl+A,then tyoe 'fullaccess(address,size)' where address is the address where your block starts,and size is the size of your block.

Otherwise,you could maybe create a thread and call VirtualProtect from inside the process,of course passing the correct arguments.


I really didn't understand anything
im alittle noob

I just want to change it from (read only) to (read & write)

can you explain easier? Sad


The first one is simple,open the memory viewer by clicking 'memory view' in the main cheat engine window,then press CTRL+A,then type this:
Code:
fullaccess(address,size)

remplace the word address with the address where you want to set the 'write' flag,and size to something like 2048 (or 4096).

The 2nd approach requires some Windows API calling mechanisms knowledge,you can learn by reading the CE help file (or olly dbg's one),and of course reading about that particular function in MSDN.

You could also click on 'make page writable' in the dump section,goto your address first.



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alhjri
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 22, 2014 2:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

mixmax35 wrote:
Maybe use the Kernel Debugger (Settings->Debugger Options->Use kernelmode Debugger (Requires DBVM)

also try Read/write process memory ( in the Settings->Extra )



thank you so much buddy, it worked!



Redone wrote:
alhjri wrote:
Redone wrote:
Try this:
open the memory viewer,click ctrl+A,then tyoe 'fullaccess(address,size)' where address is the address where your block starts,and size is the size of your block.

Otherwise,you could maybe create a thread and call VirtualProtect from inside the process,of course passing the correct arguments.


I really didn't understand anything
im alittle noob

I just want to change it from (read only) to (read & write)

can you explain easier? Sad


The first one is simple,open the memory viewer by clicking 'memory view' in the main cheat engine window,then press CTRL+A,then type this:
Code:
fullaccess(address,size)

remplace the word address with the address where you want to set the 'write' flag,and size to something like 2048 (or 4096).

The 2nd approach requires some Windows API calling mechanisms knowledge,you can learn by reading the CE help file (or olly dbg's one),and of course reading about that particular function in MSDN.

You could also click on 'make page writable' in the dump section,goto your address first.





thank you guys thank you very much, I appreciate your help! Very Happy Smile
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 22, 2014 6:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Glad to help ^_^
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