Cheat Engine

MistaC · How do I cheat? Reputation: 0 Joined: 24 May 2014 Posts: 5

In all fairness i have a question/problem here.
I've been trying to troll my friends in our 4vs4 Internet game that i host myself personally (i am the host, they connect to my ip).
For the life of me i cannot make the damn Cheat Engine work on the Server. I do not know why. I am the server, i have all the files, everything is "client" yet for all intensive purposes i fail.
I have been tinkering with this for the better part of a week. No success.

Did a lot of searching and there was no guide or tutorial on what's different when you are Host, so i assumed it wasn't much different since theres almost no posts about it.

Gniarf · Posted: Sat May 24, 2014 2:08 pm Post subject:

The few times I tried to cheat in lan games, hacking as the host was exactly like hacking in singleplayer so make sure your hack works in singleplayer and/or in a multiplayer session where no-one joins. Most likely you've only hacked the "display" value and not the real one.
If the address that contains the real data is encrypted, you should be able to locate it by only using unknown initial value/changed/unchanged scans.
Also have you tried scanning using the "all" datatype instead of "4 bytes?

Another possibility would be that the game might launch 2 processes on the host: one dedicated server and one client - the same as your friends'. In that case target the dedicated server.

Or your game might have a p2p architecture and if 7 guys have a version of the game and the 8th another, then the game uses the 7 guys' one. I vaguely remember reading that some popular MOBA has this kind of setup.

MistaC · How do I cheat? Reputation: 0 Joined: 24 May 2014 Posts: 5

The game is an archetypical RTS genre. I have indeed entertained the idea of a dedicated server it it is highly unusual that i cannot locate it in the processes making that area a bit unlikely.
However i know for a fact it does indeed work on singleplayer.

Are you implying that the Server is encrypting it just for MP, i find that intriguing.

Alas the p2p architecture... you hit me like a ton of bricks. I cannot begin to comprehend such a mechanic, however i do know that all members must have compatible versions to the letter for it to sync.

have you ever had such experience with any older RTS, lobby based game of the late 90` era technology and what might imply.?

Gniarf · Posted: Sat May 24, 2014 3:30 pm Post subject: Re: Interesting.

MistaC · How do I cheat? Reputation: 0 Joined: 24 May 2014 Posts: 5

I will get to work debunking the with the double instance of the game immediately.

As for "cheat Engine to work" i was refering to my inability to locate the address in the Server after switching to MP.

Simple 4bit scan for "money" in SP results an easy hit. New Scan + Next Scan.

However in MP after the Initial New Scan, the Next Scans always end up in a dead end, not even getting to the point of address let alone a static one. I Strongly Suspect a Dedicated under process but i fail to locate it in the process list, therefore it shouldn't exist. Bollocks it's annoying.

What can i say, trial and Error. ..... I'm failing at the trial.

Gniarf · Posted: Sat May 24, 2014 4:35 pm Post subject:

MistaC · How do I cheat? Reputation: 0 Joined: 24 May 2014 Posts: 5

For you my friend Gniarf, for keeping my wits on with this nerve racking ordeal.

The address i was looking for was is for some god knows what reason, value^2/100 in Hex code of Display Value.

Found it out by a fluke while filtering over 3000 addresses with Unknown, Increasing Value .... %^&* me.... after a few hundred scans i still had about 30 left and i started modifying at random, some crashed the game and finally one worked.... regardless i am to tired to make a pointer out of this %^*$ now, but atleast i can locate it.

Cheers.

Gniarf · Posted: Sat May 24, 2014 9:32 pm Post subject: Re: For you Gniarf