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N7xHZD
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Posted: Thu Jan 13, 2011 5:41 pm Post subject: Thinking of a Spanish version :D

Well, I was wondering if dark byte could take a Spanish version of CE for those who don't know English... I could translate into Spanish CE, but I would take a little time, since I speak Spanish and English What need would give me that dark byte code without compiling CE and I'll translate in my house ^^ do u think? good or bad idea? N7xHZD _________________ We r who we r! my signature will be ready soon!

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Posted: Fri Jan 14, 2011 11:07 am Post subject:

Go for it, the source code is here http://ce.colddot.nl/wiki

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Posted: Fri Jan 14, 2011 11:39 am Post subject:

there's currently no multi language support like in ce 5.61(yes, it had language support...) But I'll look into it _________________ Do not ask me about online cheats. I don't know any and wont help finding them. Like my help? Join me on Patreon so i can keep helping

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Posted: Fri Jan 14, 2011 5:34 pm Post subject:

that's cool... i speak russian, maybe i could help translate it into russian? _________________ Jesus loves you, Hitler! Playing/Embedding XM and MOD files in Visual Basic 6 .erutangis ruoy ni siht esu neht ,sdrawkcab siht daer ot hguone trams erew uoy fI I can spell your name backwards: ‮Hitler

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Posted: Sun Jan 16, 2011 3:46 am Post subject:

I don't support this idea. Just go learn english or get off the internet. _________________

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Posted: Sun Jan 16, 2011 4:03 am Post subject:

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I don't support this idea. Just go learn english or get off the internet.

Yeah, but this is not a user friendly attitude. And if Your product is not user friendly, You will have much less users->much less money. Let's face it, the internet is not reserved for smart people only, even idiots like me can post crap like this. So You know what I mean, the less people is using CE, the less is the worth of the work which was putting in creating it. Even if money is not a first priority in this case.
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Posted: Sun Jan 16, 2011 4:08 am Post subject:

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Benji wrote:

I don't support this idea. Just go learn English or get off the internet.

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I don't know if Dark Byte is now going to add Spanish, Russian, Zimbabwean and Hurpadurpian, but I'm just casting my opinion on this matter. I simply just don't like it when people are requesting things for their own language. English is the universal language and you should just deal with it. I mean, I'm Dutch but you don't see me going around like "hey herp dutch version plz kthx"

Also, on an off-topic note:
"You" doesn't need to be capitalized unless it's at the start of the sentence.

Also(2), if Dark Byte might add language support, I certainly don't want it to be done by a Spanish guy who doesn't even properly understand English himself.
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Posted: Sun Jan 16, 2011 5:27 am Post subject:

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Geri wrote:

Benji wrote:

I don't support this idea. Just go learn English or get off the internet.

Yeah, I am Hungarian but I also manage to understand a few words in English. However in my country, if a program is not translated, most likely it will not be used by 95% of the people. And from my experiences, I know that this is nearly the same in other countries too. I have worked a lot in multinational environment so I know this is similar in other countries too. There are many countries where people are simply refusing to learn other languages because of their pride and other things (stupidity for example). This doesn't mean they are not potential users. Most company's first priority is to offer their services on at least 5-6 major languages. And other companies have these choices:
1. Adapting to the trends and translate whatever crap they are selling.
2. Vanishing in a dark pit and let other, more flexible companies take their place.

I for one don't care about the translation but I think it would substantially raise the number of CE users. And this is just an opinion based on my experiences, not a request for multi-language support or any attempt to open a debate about it.

As for "You" with capital "Y", I am just used to it from official mailing regarding my work. It is still used in many countries (even if it is not used by English people) and it is a sign of respect which is often appreciated by the addressed person.

As for "Also(2)", I was thinking the same but who am I to criticize so I kept my opinion for myself.

Basic CE options are not so complicated and they can be used without any extra knowledge. More advanced options would require some ASM knowledge anyway and to learn ASM, the best sources are in English so no choice. Anyone who is serious about "hacking" will have to learn English too. So translations would probably increase the number of "noob" users only, but who knows. I have seen many people who didn't speak English at all, but they were still considered to be successful.
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Posted: Sun Jan 16, 2011 10:35 am Post subject:

Benji wrote:

I don't support this idea. Just go learn english or get off the internet.

Signed by an idiot.
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Posted: Sun Jan 16, 2011 3:48 pm Post subject:

Riwels wrote:

Benji wrote:

I don't support this idea. Just go learn english or get off the internet.

Signed by an idiot.

Okay, sorry, that post was stupid. But I posted an expanded explanation of my opinion 2 posts down.

@Geri
Aren't you contradicting yourself? At first you say it's needed but later on you say it's not so necessary.
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Posted: Sun Jan 16, 2011 9:45 pm Post subject:

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Aren't you contradicting yourself? At first you say it's needed but later on you say it's not so necessary.

Not neccessary for me specificly. But it would help a lot to other people. We both leave in Europe, it is kinda "free" world. You can do what You want, learn languages that You want. But I would name some countries (that I will not do here for sure) where the "Western world" and languages are still not welcome (I am sure You realize what kind of countries I am talking about). There are also many people who are not good at learning languages but they are good in other things. Communication is only one skill amongst many other things so if someone is lacking the talent to learn languages, it doesn't mean that He/She is totally worthless. And as I have mentioned, You don't need the highest education to use at least the basic functions of CE, so I think that translations would increase the number of "noob" users.

So not neccessary for me, but Spanish for example is the 3rd in the top list of spoken languages and most people who is speaking Spanish, do not speak English. I don't know why, but this is my experience. Probably because Spanish is so widely used that they don't need to learn English, or who knows. I don't speak Spanish. So many people could say I am a retard.
And as for Russian, well let's just say don't underestimate them. Same for the Chinese. These people will usually not learn English but just look at the numbers and You will see that they have potential.
If Dark Byte is willing to add language support and there are volunteers for translating, there is no reason why would He dump half of the world's population which doesn't speak English.

I would probably translate it to Hungarian. Maybe I will do even if He doesn't add language support. Depending on my mood. It shouldn't take more than a few hours anyway. (Even though I HATE translated softwares. I prefer using the English version. But CE is not too popular here, because it is not translated. Maybe this would help a bit.)
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Posted: Wed Aug 17, 2011 7:40 am Post subject:

bump just to say that there are spanish translation files for ce now _________________ Do not ask me about online cheats. I don't know any and wont help finding them. Like my help? Join me on Patreon so i can keep helping

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