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PostPosted: Fri Feb 26, 2010 2:12 pm    Post subject: Installing XP without CD drive. Reply with quote

I've got a pretty old laptop that I think would run nicely with a fresh install of xp, problem is the CD drive is broken, and when I set boot priority there's no option for flash drives, so that's out of the question also.
I basically need a way to install xp with only the primary hd.
After looking around I found grub, but the website doesn't even tell you what it is, let alone how to use it.
Any help on how I can pull this off?
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 26, 2010 2:25 pm    Post subject: Re: Installing XP without CD drive. Reply with quote

Cryoma wrote:
I've got a pretty old laptop that I think would run nicely with a fresh install of xp, problem is the CD drive is broken, and when I set boot priority there's no option for flash drives, so that's out of the question also.
I basically need a way to install xp with only the primary hd.
After looking around I found grub, but the website doesn't even tell you what it is, let alone how to use it.
Any help on how I can pull this off?

Take out the HDD and connect it to your friend's computer's mobo, copy the files to it from there.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 26, 2010 2:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would slave it to my desktop but I'm fairly sure laptop hd's aren't compatible with desktops.
I wish I had one of those HD docks...
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 26, 2010 2:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cryoma wrote:
I would slave it to my desktop but I'm fairly sure laptop hd's aren't compatible with desktops.
I wish I had one of those HD docks...

You can buy a cable, and yeah what ypu said I saw one at Bestbuy.
Pricy though.

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/Thermaltake+-+Dual+Bay+Docking+Station+for+Most+Internal+SATA+Hard+Drives/9419596.p?id=1218102199901&skuId=9419596
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 26, 2010 3:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://www.google.ca/search?q=install+xp+from+usb&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:unofficial&client=firefox-a


http://wiki.eeeuser.com/windowsxpusb
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 26, 2010 3:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I just said it can't boot from USB...
And yeah, I've used a black widow before, great dock.
Oh well, I'll see if my friend's laptop can slave this drive.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 26, 2010 3:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What boot options do you have? With luck you can boot off an SD card or any memory card that matters instead, with similar procedures to get XP into the card.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 26, 2010 3:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Basically HD group and CD, the BIOS is REALLY old.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 26, 2010 3:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Simple...

requirements:
Win98/SE bootdisk (google and download online)
smartdrive.exe (google it)
2nd computer with working CD drive

1. Connect HD to system with working CD drive
2. Format the HD into 2 partitions and it must be in FAT32
3. Copy the entire contents from your XP CD into the 2nd partition of the HD
4. Boot from the Win98/SE bootdisk and copy command.com into the first partition of the HD
5. Restart and boot from your HD.
If it's correct, you will see a dos screen
6. Take HD and plug back to your computer
7. Let it start up and back to the same dos screen, head over to the 2nd partition
8. In it head over to i386 and in it type in "Winnt" and press Enter
9. Install XP like normal (you might want to convert to NTFS if there is a option).

Note: You will need smartdrv.exe and load it in order to speed up the process and the "initial setup" (copying files before the GUI) will run twice so don't think it's a problem, that's normal.

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 26, 2010 4:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hmm... tricky stuff...

1. Make a partition that could hold the size of an XP installation CD (1.5GB should cover, maybe even less)

2. Copy all the contents of the XP CD to that partition (ask your friend for the disc, use his computer and copypasta everything to a USB or something)

3. Edit the boot.ini so that partition can be booted:
Code:
[boot loader]
timeout=30
default=multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINDOWS
[operating systems]
multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINDOWS="Windows XP Professional" /fastdetect
multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(2)\WINDOWS="Windows XP Professional Installation (or whatever)" /fastdetect


4. Restart, boot from the installation partition (in Windows Bootloader)

Note that this is completely hypothesized and untested.

More links:
http://www.techspot.com/vb/topic129802.html
http://www.petri.co.il/install_windows_xp_pro.htm

Edit: he can't boot from disc. No disc drive.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 26, 2010 4:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rather then go through all of that nonsense, why not simply get an external disk drive, the kind that are used with tablets and macbook airs all the time?
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 26, 2010 4:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pho/x/ wrote:
Rather then go through all of that nonsense, why not simply get an external disk drive, the kind that are used with tablets and macbook airs all the time?


Read his 3rd post, dumb ass...

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 26, 2010 4:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

He can't boot from USB.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 26, 2010 5:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

kls85 wrote:
Pho/x/ wrote:
Rather then go through all of that nonsense, why not simply get an external disk drive, the kind that are used with tablets and macbook airs all the time?


Read his 3rd post, dumb ass...


My mom has a tablet that has no cd drive, when she plugs in the external drive, it shows up as the cd drive, not a flash drive. This is what showed up when I plugged it in:



dumb ass
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 26, 2010 5:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

look up installing windows xp over network
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