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PostPosted: Mon Jan 11, 2010 8:41 pm    Post subject: 64bit related...+ 5870M quesetions Reply with quote

Not sure what to put as the subject...

I was wondering if 64 bit OS is safer(relatively speaking) than 32 bit counter parts?

The question came across my mind when I picked up this book about sever security in which it describes that most root-kits are developed under the x86 architecture, is that true? Even for now? If so, does that mean when a 64bit OS is not backward compatible with a 32 bit - let's say a root-kit - does that make the root kit useless under that particular environment? Or is there an other explanation to this...



Didn't want to waste another thread, so I might as well ask for opinions on this new laptop that comes with the new ATI 5870 Mobility Card:

http://www.xoticpc.com/asus-g73jha1-order-p-2731.html

Anyone ever owned a Asus G series laptop before?

I've heard bad things about the heat dissipation. For example, an 920QM reaching 99C??!! Shocked

Just want to hear your opinions


Thanks

Eric

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 11, 2010 8:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

basically its like this
64 bits system can run any 32 bits program as long as it doesn't need drivers or some OS files.

currently most of programs are for x32 OS but its going to be outdated soon since x32 OS doesn't support more than 4GB of RAM and with i7 and i9 processors, 4GB of ram is too low compared to the 24GB you can use.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 11, 2010 8:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

gogodr wrote:
basically its like this
64 bits system can run any 32 bits program as long as it doesn't need drivers or some OS files.

currently most of programs are for x32 OS but its going to be outdated soon since x32 OS doesn't support more than 4GB of RAM and with i7 and i9 processors, 4GB of ram is too low compared to the 24GB you can use.


oh, I see. So you are implying that 64 Bit OS is going to be the future? Thanks for the quick reply.

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 11, 2010 9:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Also, gaeming laptop are for retards, is too fucking heavy, too shit for battery life, can't have it on your lap, most of time is going to be at your home, why not get a desktop for half of the price?
don't fucking say you are traveling, what the fuck is traveling with a gaeming laptop suppose to do?

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 11, 2010 10:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Shota wrote:
Also, gaeming laptop are for retards, is too fucking heavy, too shit for battery life, can't have it on your lap, most of time is going to be at your home, why not get a desktop for half of the price?
don't fucking say you are traveling, what the fuck is traveling with a gaeming laptop suppose to do?


Ummm... your avatar is just... wrong... but i still have to ask where it is from? lol? Cool

Anyways, I have been building desktops for some time now, two based on the 755 boards for friends and one which I currently own at home: AMD 620 quad with 4890(Planning on an upgrade to x58 this summer, or when the i9 gets released Laughing). The thing is, it is inconvenient to carry around a desktop while studying in college, or even with LAN party cases like the storm scout (at least for me). I am also taking graphics design class, so a heavy duty quad core laptop is a must, not to mention that 720qm has 8 threads with 2.8GHz turbo. Also, this asus i am looking at has two hard drive cages, very useful indeed. Cool
Desktop is desktop, and laptop is laptop, there are no comparisons between the two as for their purposes are different. I would rather like some G series owner's past experience than you telling me what to get... no offense. Embarassed

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 11, 2010 11:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

superfirepig wrote:
Shota wrote:
Also, gaeming laptop are for retards, is too fucking heavy, too shit for battery life, can't have it on your lap, most of time is going to be at your home, why not get a desktop for half of the price?
don't fucking say you are traveling, what the fuck is traveling with a gaeming laptop suppose to do?


Ummm... your avatar is just... wrong... but i still have to ask where it is from? lol? Cool

Anyways, I have been building desktops for some time now, two based on the 755 boards for friends and one which I currently own at home: AMD 620 quad with 4890(Planning on an upgrade to x58 this summer, or when the i9 gets released Laughing). The thing is, it is inconvenient to carry around a desktop while studying in college, or even with LAN party cases like the storm scout (at least for me). I am also taking graphics design class, so a heavy duty quad core laptop is a must, not to mention that 720qm has 8 threads with 2.8GHz turbo. Also, this asus i am looking at has two hard drive cages, very useful indeed. Cool
Desktop is desktop, and laptop is laptop, there are no comparisons between the two as for their purposes are different. I would rather like some G series owner's past experience than you telling me what to get... no offense. Embarassed

300 posts ! here i come!

I own a G1, pic related, also a Scout storm case for LAN party
the G1 was ridiculous for the price back then, 1.5k for 8600mgt/ core2duo
attachment is the G1 and another Acer lappy
the g1 burn up so much that i had to buy a cooler, fricking 80C idle
Also, god i love the Scout storm case, but there ain't enough LAN parties to make it worth, i just picked it up because is $35 off, i was just flipping a coin between the antec 900 and this, but whatever
edit: ASUS having some nice lappy this year at CES, might check it out
http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/news/2010/01/asus-laptop-makes-intel-nvidia-gpus-work-together.ars

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 12, 2010 1:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

the 5870m has a while before it hits the market.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 12, 2010 9:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I own a G1, pic related, also a Scout storm case for LAN party
the G1 was ridiculous for the price back then, 1.5k for 8600mgt/ core2duo
attachment is the G1 and another Acer lappy
the g1 burn up so much that i had to buy a cooler, fricking 80C idle
Also, god i love the Scout storm case, but there ain't enough LAN parties to make it worth, i just picked it up because is $35 off, i was just flipping a coin between the antec 900 and this, but whatever


Dam 80C on idle? How old is it? Does it do that when it is brand new? I know it is pointless but, on load? LOL?

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the 5870m has a while before it hits the market.


The pre-order on xocticpc.com is already out and it will be delivered anywhere from late January to early February. I don't really understand what you mean by "a while"

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 12, 2010 6:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

superfirepig wrote:
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I own a G1, pic related, also a Scout storm case for LAN party
the G1 was ridiculous for the price back then, 1.5k for 8600mgt/ core2duo
attachment is the G1 and another Acer lappy
the g1 burn up so much that i had to buy a cooler, fricking 80C idle
Also, god i love the Scout storm case, but there ain't enough LAN parties to make it worth, i just picked it up because is $35 off, i was just flipping a coin between the antec 900 and this, but whatever


Dam 80C on idle? How old is it? Does it do that when it is brand new? I know it is pointless but, on load? LOL?

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the 5870m has a while before it hits the market.


The pre-order on xocticpc.com is already out and it will be delivered anywhere from late January to early February. I don't really understand what you mean by "a while"

bough my lappy two years ago because i got a huge refund
and i barely do shit on that laptop now since is fricking hot without the cooling pad, with cooling pad, 60C idle, 80C load
with no cooling pad, playing gaems on that thing can roam up 100C on HWmonitor

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