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| elpacco wrote: | | Quote: | | virus: a software program capable of reproducing itself and usually capable of causing great harm to files or other programs on the same computer ... |
| Quote: | | A computer virus is a computer program that can copy itself and infect a computer without the permission or knowledge of the owner. ... |
| Quote: | | A dangerous computer program with the characteristic feature of being able to generate copies of itself, and thereby spreading. Additionally most computer viruses have a destructive payload that is activated under certain conditions. ... |
So yes, they all may do a different thing, but they all multiply. And it is just in the nature of the way that Windows runs that a file cannot do anything unless it is run.
So I'm sorry, but you're wrong. |
It would be nice if you would read them if you quote them, there's a difference between being able to and actually doing.
This means I am right but some do multiply.
Anyway, there's more than just multiplying.
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| Posted: Tue Oct 13, 2009 3:09 pm Post subject: |
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| Nintendo 64 wrote: | | elpacco wrote: | | Quote: | | virus: a software program capable of reproducing itself and usually capable of causing great harm to files or other programs on the same computer ... |
| Quote: | | A computer virus is a computer program that can copy itself and infect a computer without the permission or knowledge of the owner. ... |
| Quote: | | A dangerous computer program with the characteristic feature of being able to generate copies of itself, and thereby spreading. Additionally most computer viruses have a destructive payload that is activated under certain conditions. ... |
So yes, they all may do a different thing, but they all multiply. And it is just in the nature of the way that Windows runs that a file cannot do anything unless it is run.
So I'm sorry, but you're wrong. |
It would be nice if you would read them if you quote them, there's a difference between being able to and actually doing.
This means I am right but some do multiply.
Anyway, there's more than just multiplying. |
Not to mention alot of viruses can auto run them selves with something as little as a reboot.
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| Posted: Tue Oct 13, 2009 3:22 pm Post subject: |
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| elpacco wrote: | So yes, they all may do a different thing, but they all multiply. And it is just in the nature of the way that Windows runs that a file cannot do anything unless it is run.
So I'm sorry, but you're wrong. |
When it says 'multiplies', it means sending itself out to other uninfected computers to spread the infection around; it doesn't mean making a copy of itself on disk in 1000 different places. 
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| Posted: Tue Oct 13, 2009 5:07 pm Post subject: |
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| Athaem wrote: | | elpacco wrote: | So yes, they all may do a different thing, but they all multiply. And it is just in the nature of the way that Windows runs that a file cannot do anything unless it is run.
So I'm sorry, but you're wrong. |
When it says 'multiplies', it means sending itself out to other uninfected computers to spread the infection around; it doesn't mean making a copy of itself on disk in 1000 different places. :roll: |
Actually, it does. Yes it isn't necessary for a virus to multiply itself to be a virus. A program can be a virus without multiplying itself, but everyone who makes viruses is going to have it multiply because it is much harder to get rid of 1000 files than it is to get rid of 1.
@Nintendo 64: Yes obviously they do more than just multiply. A file that keeps multiplying itself doesn't pose that much of a threat, it'll just take up some space. No one makes a virus and doesn't have it multiply. The way you interpret a virus is extremely arbitrary.
@Hero: That is because viruses will infect other files in the startup folder to make them run the virus when the infected file runs. Either that or it'll just drop a duplicate of the virus (one of the many copies) into the startup folder, and it'll just run itself. Rebooting is one of the worst things you can do when you just get a virus, unless you startup in safe mode.
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| FangBanger wrote: | | What is the best way for a lv19 Soldier to solo Sledge on Borderlands? |
Shoot him. |
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Hero
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| Posted: Tue Oct 13, 2009 7:27 pm Post subject: |
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| elpacco wrote: | | Athaem wrote: | | elpacco wrote: | So yes, they all may do a different thing, but they all multiply. And it is just in the nature of the way that Windows runs that a file cannot do anything unless it is run.
So I'm sorry, but you're wrong. |
When it says 'multiplies', it means sending itself out to other uninfected computers to spread the infection around; it doesn't mean making a copy of itself on disk in 1000 different places. :roll: |
Actually, it does. Yes it isn't necessary for a virus to multiply itself to be a virus. A program can be a virus without multiplying itself, but everyone who makes viruses is going to have it multiply because it is much harder to get rid of 1000 files than it is to get rid of 1.
@Nintendo 64: Yes obviously they do more than just multiply. A file that keeps multiplying itself doesn't pose that much of a threat, it'll just take up some space. No one makes a virus and doesn't have it multiply. The way you interpret a virus is extremely arbitrary.
@Hero: That is because viruses will infect other files in the startup folder to make them run the virus when the infected file runs. Either that or it'll just drop a duplicate of the virus (one of the many copies) into the startup folder, and it'll just run itself. Rebooting is one of the worst things you can do when you just get a virus, unless you startup in safe mode. |
Because obviously everyone knows at the exact moment when they get a virus, that they got it.
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elpacco
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| Posted: Tue Oct 13, 2009 8:38 pm Post subject: |
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| Hero wrote: | | elpacco wrote: | | Athaem wrote: | | elpacco wrote: | So yes, they all may do a different thing, but they all multiply. And it is just in the nature of the way that Windows runs that a file cannot do anything unless it is run.
So I'm sorry, but you're wrong. |
When it says 'multiplies', it means sending itself out to other uninfected computers to spread the infection around; it doesn't mean making a copy of itself on disk in 1000 different places. :roll: |
Actually, it does. Yes it isn't necessary for a virus to multiply itself to be a virus. A program can be a virus without multiplying itself, but everyone who makes viruses is going to have it multiply because it is much harder to get rid of 1000 files than it is to get rid of 1.
@Nintendo 64: Yes obviously they do more than just multiply. A file that keeps multiplying itself doesn't pose that much of a threat, it'll just take up some space. No one makes a virus and doesn't have it multiply. The way you interpret a virus is extremely arbitrary.
@Hero: That is because viruses will infect other files in the startup folder to make them run the virus when the infected file runs. Either that or it'll just drop a duplicate of the virus (one of the many copies) into the startup folder, and it'll just run itself. Rebooting is one of the worst things you can do when you just get a virus, unless you startup in safe mode. |
Because obviously everyone knows at the exact moment when they get a virus, that they got it. |
I never said you did. Whether you know or not, restarting is the worst thing you can do. Now I'm not saying you shouldn't restart your computer ever again because you might have a virus etc. If you ever are suspicious, however, and don't have the time to check it out, leave your computer running.
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| FangBanger wrote: | | What is the best way for a lv19 Soldier to solo Sledge on Borderlands? |
Shoot him. |
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| Posted: Wed Oct 14, 2009 9:36 pm Post subject: |
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| elpacco wrote: | | Actually, it does. Yes it isn't necessary for a virus to multiply itself to be a virus. A program can be a virus without multiplying itself, but everyone who makes viruses is going to have it multiply because it is much harder to get rid of 1000 files than it is to get rid of 1. |
I'm talking about what the article you quoted meant by "multiplies", not what viruses tend to do.
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elpacco
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| Posted: Thu Oct 15, 2009 8:30 am Post subject: |
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| Athaem wrote: | | elpacco wrote: | | Actually, it does. Yes it isn't necessary for a virus to multiply itself to be a virus. A program can be a virus without multiplying itself, but everyone who makes viruses is going to have it multiply because it is much harder to get rid of 1000 files than it is to get rid of 1. |
I'm talking about what the article you quoted meant by "multiplies", not what viruses tend to do. |
Exactly what I meant by you being arbitrary. No one makes a virus that doesn't multiply. However, you could and it would still be considered a virus.
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| FangBanger wrote: | | What is the best way for a lv19 Soldier to solo Sledge on Borderlands? |
Shoot him. |
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| Posted: Thu Oct 15, 2009 12:32 pm Post subject: |
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| elpacco wrote: | | Athaem wrote: | | elpacco wrote: | | Actually, it does. Yes it isn't necessary for a virus to multiply itself to be a virus. A program can be a virus without multiplying itself, but everyone who makes viruses is going to have it multiply because it is much harder to get rid of 1000 files than it is to get rid of 1. |
I'm talking about what the article you quoted meant by "multiplies", not what viruses tend to do. |
Exactly what I meant by you being arbitrary. No one makes a virus that doesn't multiply. However, you could and it would still be considered a virus. |
There are plenty of viruses that don't "multiply". Don't be stupid.
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