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RushXTC
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| superweapons wrote: | Build critique:
SATA and 4-pin molex are included with the motherboard and power supply, respectively. The thermal paste is unneeded, but it's cheap anyways (although that money could be much better spent on a hard drive upgrade).
Don't buy a Rosewill power supply. They have a bad reputation with a lot of their products, and it's that much more important to get a dependable power supply. The CMPSU-400CX will suffice and costs about $20 less.
A number of users here acquire their OS by other means, saving a lot of money on the build.
Don't forget to look at other places for your parts. Ex. Fry's brick and mortar has a decent deal on 4GB of RAM from Corsair. It's also might be a good idea to wait for Black Friday if your build isn't critical. That same RAM went on sale for $15 after MIR on Newegg and sold like hot cakes. |
I'm new to getting a PC like this, So whatever sounds nooby, is because I am a noob.
Doesn't the mobo only come with 1 sata? The cd/DVD drive is OEM, So i'd require 2.
The other cable is to connect more fans, The case comes with 3 fans and im getting 2 extra.
Also, I've tried to get the OS, But I keep failing so the best thing for me is to cough up 110$ for the OS.
I only have 150$ right now, But it will be purchased through credit card, I have no job so that's why I can't get it to expensive. The only reason I will be able to buy this is because I can pay little by little from other jobs I do.
Edit : oh and, Can you find me a cheap PSU that will be able to power 1 HDD 1 CD/DVD drive, 4 fans (Cpu one connects to mobo IIRC) and uhh, Well that's about it o.o |
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| Posted: Thu Aug 27, 2009 7:36 pm Post subject: |
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As you can see from the photo (mobo), they've included 4 SATA cables.
3 fans is a lot already, my 2 fans and meh airflow case keep my system cool just fine at medium air speed.
As I had posted earlier, the Corsair CMPSU-400CX far surpasses the requirements.
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| Posted: Thu Aug 27, 2009 8:10 pm Post subject: |
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| superweapons wrote: | As you can see from the photo (mobo), they've included 4 SATA cables.
3 fans is a lot already, my 2 fans and meh airflow case keep my system cool just fine at medium air speed.
As I had posted earlier, the Corsair CMPSU-400CX far surpasses the requirements. |
Ahh okay, Added it.
Also, Since that one has 20$ Mail in rebate (I know I'm trying to use as little money as possible, But I also want a faster PC)
Would it be worth putting those 20$ into getting this instead? :
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115057
Edit : LOL! I was reading through the reviews and I noticed this :
| superweapons wrote: | Pros: Where to start-oh it's a Corsair PSU. High-quality component in general.
-Very stable rails (very little voltage rail 'deviation')
-Good power distribution with the ATX12v v2.2 specifications (more amperes to the +12v rather than +5v and +3.3v); still offers enough power for a good bit of overclocking (i.e. no OC limitations due to the PSU not being able to supply enough power)
-Possibly the highest power output to the +12v on any 400W power supply (an outrageous 30A-it powers my GTX 260 Core 216, and you might be able to get away with the GTX 285)
-Quality Seasonic-based internals
-Single, large primary power capacitor (unfortunately, it's rated for 85C unlike the high-performance Corsair PSUs, but still high spec'd among its class)
-High efficiency
-Cables long enough for a mid-tower ATX case
-Enough cables for my enthusiast setup
-...it works
Cons: None. Except I had to wait a bit after switching out my old PSU (and GPU, HDD) before I could start it up. Kind of expected it though.
Other Thoughts: It has enough power to support most systems, even mines. I'm pretty crazy.
CPU: Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600 @ 3GHz (G0, stock voltage)
MB: Gigabyte P35-DS3L
RAM: 4GB Crucial DDR2-800 @ 667MHz (1:1 CPU clock), 3-3-3-9, 2.2v
GPU: XFX GTX 260 Core 216 @ 666/1404/1150 (Black Edition BIOS flash)
HDD: 1x Maxtor 200GB (8MB cache, 7200RPM, SATA 3.0Gb/s, ~55MB/s burst, ~45MB/s average write), 1x Seagate 640GB (32MB cache, 7200RPM, SATA 3.0Gb/s, ~115MB/s burst, ~105MB/s average write)
PSU: Corsair CMPSU-400CX |
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| Posted: Thu Aug 27, 2009 9:21 pm Post subject: |
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No, it's not worth the extra money. Upgrades in only CPU clock speeds don't warrant significantly better performance. At the moment, this build is ultra-friendly to overclocking, if you ever want to overclock. 2.8GHz (400x7) should not be a problem.
By the way, Core i5 (which should be much more affordable than Core i7) and P55 motherboards are coming out very, very soon. Even if you don't intend on getting one, it'll be interesting to see the after-effects (price drops on current hardware).
It'd also be a good idea experimenting with AMD-based builds. The Phenom II X4 doesn't look like a bad option. AMD builds usually aren't as 'picky' with motherboard brands as it is with Intel, although you should consult someone who has more experience with AMD systems than me.
Heh, that's the review I posted for it. Bought it off a different account though.
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| Posted: Thu Aug 27, 2009 9:39 pm Post subject: |
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| superweapons wrote: | No, it's not worth the extra money. Upgrades in only CPU clock speeds don't warrant significantly better performance. At the moment, this build is ultra-friendly to overclocking, if you ever want to overclock. 2.8GHz (400x7) should not be a problem.
By the way, Core i5 (which should be much more affordable than Core i7) and P55 motherboards are coming out very, very soon. Even if you don't intend on getting one, it'll be interesting to see the after-effects (price drops on current hardware).
It'd also be a good idea experimenting with AMD-based builds. The Phenom II X4 doesn't look like a bad option. AMD builds usually aren't as 'picky' with motherboard brands as it is with Intel, although you should consult someone who has more experience with AMD systems than me.
Heh, that's the review I posted for it. Bought it off a different account though. |
Oh well, I bought it just a few minutes before you replied lol
Thanks for the help you've given me man. I really appreciate it  !
If I forgot to buy anything, Let me know Haha. |
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| Posted: Sat Aug 29, 2009 8:09 am Post subject: |
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| MBCDanny™ wrote: | you cant 'play games with no problem' unless your budget is $800 above
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You my friend have no idea. The game's he specified can run on old AGP cards. The top end core i7 build that you posted would play crisis on high.
These components would almost half the price when converted to USD And go down once again when buying online
Case:
I'd suggest buying a case that comes with a psu this saves about like $100 usually. The Thermaltake RS100 is like $100 Australian and comes with a 430 watt PSU. Of course there are heaps and heaps of alternatives to this case.
Thermaltake RS100:
CPU:
I'd recommend going with going with AMD because they offer a lot more "bang for the buck". Maybe the x3 Phenom II 710 for around $119 Australian. They are sooooo easy to overclock.
GPU:
I'd suggest these two, you should go for the generic brands since your building a budget pc.
512MB 4850 (any brand)
1GB 9800GT (any brand)
Motherboard:
I'd recommend gigabyte and asus for this build. If you've got money to spend then there are some other brands that come into mind.
-GigabyeMA770-US3
-Gigabye MA790X-UD4P
-Asus M4N78-Pro
All these boards are around $100AUD
RAM:
You could probably squeeze a 4GB kit into this build which would improve your gaming by a fair amount. RAM is relatively cheap anyway. So buy a 2x2GB Kit of your choice.
HDD:
Get Seagate or WesternDigital drives. You could get a 1TB for this build. Which would cost you about $50USD for either of these brands.
I know you've already purchased your build but this is just my point of view. You wasted your money on the corsair psu. Keep in mind all these prices are australian and would almost half the price when converted to USD
This isn't a complete build either just a few components i would go for.
I don't know if anyone has mentioned this but you have forgotten to order a GPU in the screenie you posted.
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| Posted: Sat Aug 29, 2009 3:56 pm Post subject: |
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| angerist wrote: | | long quote |
Never ever get a case with a PSU ever. The PSUs are horrible 95% of the time. Enjoy your fried hardware.
If you'd have bothered to read the thread you'd have seen that the OP has a 9500GT already.
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| Posted: Sat Aug 29, 2009 7:19 pm Post subject: |
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You actually wrong. Most of the antec bundles come with Antec TruePower psu's which are made by Seasonic. And Seasonic make corsair. They have the exactly the same rails are your expensive corsair psu. Just paying for a hyped up brand.
The case that I specified comes with a Thermaltake ToughPower which is also manufactured by Seasonic.
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