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PostPosted: Fri Jun 19, 2009 7:37 pm    Post subject: Why People Dislike Ubuntu Reply with quote

I'm not a fan of Ubuntu myslef, but I was wondering, why do most linux users on this forum dislike Ubuntu? I found two articles discussing the matter: http://blogs.pcworld.com/communityvoices/archives/2008/07/what_i_dont_lik.html and http://techrepublic.com.com/5208-6230-0.html?forumID=102&threadID=224062&start=0
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cigs dont make people high, which weed does, which causes them to do bad stuff. like killing
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 19, 2009 10:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It does have to do with computers, it is an operating system.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 19, 2009 10:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

hackerdvm wrote:
personal opion and wtf does this have to do with computers barely doesnt


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This isn't spam.

Back on topic: I thought that Ubuntu Jaunty Jackalope was the most-used Operating System? Maybe only a few linux fans dislike it. I probably would've tried out Ubuntu myself, but it seems that it's not compatible with a lot of Windows programs.

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 19, 2009 10:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Overall, it's extremely bloated; many unnecessary packages are setup and configured by default on most revs of Ubuntu. Debian is a slimmer choice, and I personally find easier to setup, with more choice over manual customization.
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 20, 2009 12:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Agreed on the bloated part. Also, DKMikey, it's quality not popularity. Just because it's the most used Linux distribution does not mean it's the best.
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 20, 2009 10:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's true, Ubuntu is the most popular linux distro. But since when has Linux based popularity off how good things is?

ie, everyone uses Windows, not Linux...


Also, Linux is not compatible with Windows programs, because Linux isn't Windows..... >.> That should have been straight forward.

It is bloated, but some Distros are disgustingly... the opposite.

You get on the machine and you have nothing. But it's not that bad, as long as you aren't brand new to linux.

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PostPosted: Sat Jun 20, 2009 10:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

That's exactly why I like Arch Linux Smile
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 20, 2009 10:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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That's exactly why I like Arch Linux Smile


I like to pop around with Linux distros. Try 'em all is my goal. Next one to try is Gentoo... Never bothered downloading the .iso yet Razz

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PostPosted: Sat Jun 20, 2009 11:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have a question about linux...
can you run Windows programs on linux ?
because if you can't I would find linux pretty useless for my needs
since there are just a few programs I use that have versions for linux...
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 20, 2009 11:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

gogodr wrote:
I have a question about linux...
can you run Windows programs on linux ?
because if you can't I would find linux pretty useless for my needs
since there are just a few programs I use that have versions for linux...

you cannot run windows programs on linux. There is of course Wine, a small program that runs some windows applications on linux but don't expet it to run photoshop or anything
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 20, 2009 11:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

gogodr wrote:
I have a question about linux...
can you run Windows programs on linux ?
because if you can't I would find linux pretty useless for my needs
since there are just a few programs I use that have versions for linux...


http://www.winehq.org/

Edit: beat me to it

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PostPosted: Sat Jun 20, 2009 11:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

There are a few programs out there that can run Windows programs. Not just wine.

Some specializing in games, some specializing in general stuff.

There are also a lot of OPEN SOURCE counter parts to programs for linux.

Word -> OpenOffice
IE -> anything but IE

etc etc

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PostPosted: Sat Jun 20, 2009 11:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

using translator programs to open up windows programs will slow down them
bleh then ubuntu is not for me since I do some hard working on my PC
and I need the programs that don't run on linux
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 20, 2009 11:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

oib111 wrote:
That's exactly why I like Arch Linux Smile


Well said - Arch I'm a huge fan of.

Localhost wrote:
It's true, Ubuntu is the most popular linux distro. But since when has Linux based popularity off how good things is?

ie, everyone uses Windows, not Linux...


Also, Linux is not compatible with Windows programs, because Linux isn't Windows..... >.> That should have been straight forward.

It is bloated, but some Distros are disgustingly... the opposite.

You get on the machine and you have nothing. But it's not that bad, as long as you aren't brand new to linux.


WINE runs many, many Windows applications; it has support for Direct3D even.

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oib111 wrote:
That's exactly why I like Arch Linux Smile


I like to pop around with Linux distros. Try 'em all is my goal. Next one to try is Gentoo... Never bothered downloading the .iso yet Razz


Gentoo has a steep learning curve; if you're still new to working with a distro by purely command line, without any general knowledge of the package system, you may want to read up on the public documentation.

gogodr wrote:
I have a question about linux...
can you run Windows programs on linux ?
because if you can't I would find linux pretty useless for my needs
since there are just a few programs I use that have versions for linux...


Yes, a la WINE, CrossOver, etc.

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gogodr wrote:
I have a question about linux...
can you run Windows programs on linux ?
because if you can't I would find linux pretty useless for my needs
since there are just a few programs I use that have versions for linux...

you cannot run windows programs on linux. There is of course Wine, a small program that runs some windows applications on linux but don't expet it to run photoshop or anything


WINE is anything but small - Photoshop runs fine under WINE, as do many games; years ago, I played WoW, CS 1.6, CS:S, etc games under WINE alone.

Photoshop under WINE: http://wiki.winehq.org/AdobePhotoshop

Localhost wrote:
There are a few programs out there that can run Windows programs. Not just wine.

Some specializing in games, some specializing in general stuff.

There are also a lot of OPEN SOURCE counter parts to programs for linux.

Word -> OpenOffice
IE -> anything but IE

etc etc


And, open source isn't all there is; the web browser Opera, for example, is written for many specific Linux distros, and it remains closed source.

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using translator programs to open up windows programs will slow down them
bleh then ubuntu is not for me since I do some hard working on my PC
and I need the programs that don't run on linux


They actually aren't that slow: WINE is not an emulator, calls to Windows API and similar are just quickly altered to be calls to the equivalent available Linux libraries: Instead of DirectX, OpenGL is used, etc.
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 20, 2009 12:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Localhost wrote:
There are a few programs out there that can run Windows programs. Not just wine.

Some specializing in games, some specializing in general stuff.

There are also a lot of OPEN SOURCE counter parts to programs for linux.

Word -> OpenOffice
IE -> anything but IE

etc etc


True and theres starting to get many "emulator programs" that can run
windows programs.
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