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		| wunder312355 Grandmaster Cheater
 
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				|  Posted: Sat Mar 14, 2009 6:21 pm    Post subject: My computer Build... will it work? |   |  
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				| This is my first computer, and Im hoping that It will work... So before I waste 900 bucks have a look   
 Ordering from ZipZoomFly btw.
 
 Suggesstions appreciated , Its meant for high-end gaming. People overclocked that proc to up to 4.2 ghz
 
 
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 10005644  THERMALTAKE Silent Cat A2329 Case Fan Retail  2  $8.49
 
 10005889  THERMALTAKE Soprano RS 101 VG7000BWS Mid Tower Case Retail  1  $54.99
 
 10007436  HITACHI Deskstar P7K500 0A35415 500GB SATA 7200 RPM 16MB Buffer Hard Drive Bulk  1  $58.99
 
 10007603  INTEL BX80570E8400 Core 2 Duo E8400 3.00 GHz 1333 MHz Socket 775 6MB Desktop Processor Retail ***Free Shipping***  1  $164.90
 
 10009274  LG GH22LS30 22X SATA DVD Burner Black Drive Bulk  1  $22.99
 
 10009333  OCZ OCZ600MXSP 600W SLI/CrossFire Active Power Supply Retail  1  $79.99
 
 10009641  CORSAIR TR3X6G1333C9 6GB PC3-10666 (DDR3-1333) DDR3 Memory Retail ***Free Shipping***  1  $99.50
 
 10010099  EVGA 132-CK-NF79-TR nVidia nForce 790i Ultra SLI Core 2 Quad/Core 2 Extreme/Core 2 Duo/Pentium Socket 775 1600 MHz PC3-10600 (DDR3-1333) ATX Motherboard Retail  1  $192.94
 
 10010100  EVGA 512-P3-N884-TR GeForce 9800 GTX+ 512MB GDDR3 PCI Express x16 (2.0v) Video Card Retail  1  $159.99
 
 371395  Thermaltake CL-P0378 Silent 775D CPU Cooler Retail  1  $25.99
 
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 Estimated Subtotal $877.26
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		| superweapons Grandmaster Cheater Supreme
 
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				|  Posted: Sat Mar 14, 2009 8:26 pm    Post subject: |   |  
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				| Comments and suggestions: 
 Case fans: I personally prefer Antec's Tri-Speed fans, for reliability and variable performance to sound level ratio.
 Case: If you think the Antec Three Hundred is good, it's at Fry's B&M for $44.
 HDD: I'm not sure how well Hitachi does, WD and Seagate usually produce reliable products.
 CPU: Good processor, but also consider some of AMD's line-up. The Phenom II's are good too.
 Optical drive:
   PSU: Modular is good and the power supply performs well. IIRC, it was ~$50 (after MIR) at Newegg a while ago, so watch for price drops.
 RAM: IMO, you won't benefit much from DDR3 compared to DDR2 on Core 2-based microprocessors.
 Motherboard: NVIDIA's chipset is a bit... yeah. Expensive motherboard (a reliable Intel P45 would be much better and cheaper) and not-too-great overclocking performance and stability.
 Graphics card: Newegg has the EVGA GTX 260 (Core 192 65nm) at the same price after MIR, which is far better than the 9800GTX+. Fry's B&M had the same model for $150 after MIR a week ago. If you still are going to stick with the over-rebranded G92 core, then go with the cheaper and faster GTS 250.
 CPU Cooler: I doubt you're going to be able to hit 4.2GHz with decent temperatures using this cooler, and using a 790i doesn't help the task. Use the money saved from getting a P45 motherboard towards a better CPU cooler (i.e. TT Big Typhoon, Ultra 120 Extreme, Tuniq Tower, Noctua NH-U12P, etc.) and graphics card.
 
 It should work, but consider the alternatives. At least change out the motherboard.
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		| wunder312355 Grandmaster Cheater
 
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				|  Posted: Sat Mar 14, 2009 11:16 pm    Post subject: |   |  
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				| Wow, I highly appreciate your work. Finding a new motherboard to support pci x16 2.0 with good ddr2 support is a little difficult. |  | 
	
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				|  Posted: Sat Mar 14, 2009 11:21 pm    Post subject: |   |  
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				| Shouldn't be too difficult. Most P45 mobos would be good for you to get, the P5Q PRO, Gigabyte DS3L, and Gigayte UD3P are all oft-recommended for C2D/C2Q builds. |  | 
	
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				|  Posted: Sun Mar 15, 2009 12:49 am    Post subject: |   |  
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				| Yeah, that combo'll work. If you don't need two PCIe x16 2.0 slots for Crossfire (ATI cards), you can get a Gigabyte UD3L (1 PCIe x16 2.0 slot). Remember to get the P45 version (there's also one with the P43 chipset on ZZF). |  | 
	
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				|  Posted: Sun Mar 15, 2009 1:06 am    Post subject: |   |  
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				| If you don't know about them, Newegg hosts combo deals that can end up helping you save a lot of money, or even in some cases, get a free component (Vista + free HDD). For example, with the P5Q Pro, you can save $10 by buying both the motherboard and CPU. 
 You can also go for the Gigabyte EP45-UD3R if the UD3L version doesn't provide enough features or you need the RAID capability/extra SATA ports. There's also a combo deal with E8500, but it'll still cost you an extra $10 (with the combo deal savings applied) for that extra .5x multiplier.
 
 The Wolfdale-3M CPU's offer amazing bang-for-your-buck (possibly even more than the full-fledged Wolfdale chips). The E7400 as a combo with the P5Q Pro is a good $50 less than the equivalent motherboard with an E8400. It comes with a lower FSB (and similar clock speed), so you get a higher multiplier for an even better overclocking experience. You're mainly losing only the 3MB of L2 cache, which, when factored, still makes it a better deal than Wolfdale processors, IMO.
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				|  Posted: Sun Mar 15, 2009 7:20 am    Post subject: |   |  
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				| If you're going C2D/C2Q, why use DDR3 RAM? It's pointless and a waste of money. For half the price of 6GB of DDR3, you can get 8GB of DDR2. |  | 
	
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				|  Posted: Sun Mar 15, 2009 7:57 am    Post subject: |   |  
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				| Tripple channel DDR3 doesn't work with 775. |  | 
	
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				|  Posted: Sun Mar 15, 2009 10:58 am    Post subject: |   |  
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				| Okay, here is my new build.. I don't know what I would do without you guys... Somehow i managed to transfer everything to Newegg for an overall better deal. 
 
 
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 ARCTIC COOLING Freezer 7 Pro 92mm CPU Cooler
 
 ARCTIC COOLING Freezer 7 Pro 92mm CPU Cooler
 Item #:N82E16835186134
 Return Policy: Standard Return Policy
 -$7.99 Saving
 $36.99
 $29.00
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 Nippon Labs 15 ft. USB2.0 A/male to B/male cable Model USB-15-AB
 
 Nippon Labs 15 ft. USB2.0 A/male to B/male cable
 Item #:N82E16812816019
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 $7.99 ->>>> CAME FREE WITH COOLER
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 Antec 77095 120mm Blue LED Case Fan
 
 Antec 77095 Blue LED Case Fan
 Item #:N82E16835129016
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 $14.99
 1   <--- My case has two big ones built in already, is this enough?
 
 CORSAIR 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory Model TWIN2X4096-6400C5
 
 CORSAIR 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory
 Item #:N82E16820145184
 Return Policy: Limited Non-Refundable 30-Day Return Policy
 $25.00 Mail-in Rebate
 $44.99
 1   <---- I hope 4gig is sufficient
 
 SAMSUNG 22X DVD±R DVD Burner with LightScribe Black SATA Model SH-S223Q
 
 SAMSUNG 22X DVD±R DVD Burner with LightScribe Black SATA Model SH-S223Q
 Item #:N82E16827151173
 Return Policy: 30 Day Return Policy
 $24.99
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 Western Digital Caviar SE16 WD3200AAKS 320GB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive
 
 Western Digital Caviar SE16 320GB 3.5" SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive
 Item #:N82E16822136074
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 $54.99
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 EVGA 896-P3-1260-AR GeForce GTX 260 896MB 448-bit GDDR3 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Supported Video Card
 
 EVGA GeForce GTX 260 896-P3-1260-AR Video Card
 Item #:N82E16814130370
 Return Policy: Limited Non-Refundable 30-Day Return Policy
 -$10.00 Instant
 $20.00 Mail-in Rebate
 $194.99
 $184.99
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 Arctic Silver 5 Thermal Compound
 
 Arctic Silver 5 Thermal Compound
 Item #:N82E16835100007
 Return Policy: Consumable Items Return Policy
 $6.99
 1   <----Only getting that cpu to overclock
 
 XCLIO GREATPOWER X14S4P4 700W ATX12V SLI Certified CrossFire Ready Modular Active PFC Power Supply <<<<----I hope this is good.
 XCLIO A380BK Fully Black Computer Case With Side Panel Window
 Item #: N82E16811103010
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 -$20.00 Instant
 -$40.00 Combo
 $235.98
 $175.98
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 ASUS P5Q Pro LGA 775 Intel P45 ATX Intel Motherboard
 
 ASUS P5Q Pro ATX Intel Motherboard
 Item #: N82E16813131299
 Return Policy: 30 Day Return Policy
 
 Intel Core 2 Duo E7400 Wolfdale 2.8GHz LGA 775 65W Dual-Core Processor Model BX80571E7400 <----Better OC lol
 
 Intel Core 2 Duo E7400 2.8GHz LGA 775 65W Dual-Core Processor
 Item #: N82E16819115206
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 -$10.00 Instant
 -$15.00 Combo
 $15.00 Mail-in Rebate
 $249.98
 $224.98
 Grand Total:   $769.89
 With SHIPPING: Grand Total:     $821.83
 
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 Tell me what you think =) Will it run Next gen games good?
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		| Humper Grandmaster Cheater Supreme
 
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				|  Posted: Sun Mar 15, 2009 11:50 am    Post subject: |   |  
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				| Change: - HDD, 500GB costs the same
 
 - CPU, get E8400 instead.
 
 - Videocard, get the 216 if that one isn't.
 
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		| wunder312355 Grandmaster Cheater
 
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				|  Posted: Sun Mar 15, 2009 1:03 pm    Post subject: |   |  
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				| Yea, I changed the gfx card, and HD, Cant afford the CPU, but this one is highly OC'able, so yea. 
 EDIT: I could possibly move things around a bit to afford the 3.0ghz cpu, but is there really a difference when it comes to how well they can OC?
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				|  Posted: Sun Mar 15, 2009 1:48 pm    Post subject: |   |  
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				| You're spending way too much money on the case. 
 Get an Antec 300 and the Corsair or PC Power and Cooling 500W PSU.
 
 Antec 300 - $55
 500W PSU - $60
 
 You just saved $70 to put towards the CPU and graphics card.
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				|  Posted: Sun Mar 15, 2009 1:51 pm    Post subject: |   |  
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				| Get the Antec 300, keep the E7400, and spend $15-20 more on a better CPU cooler to get more out of your overclock. Superweapons listed a few earlier. |  | 
	
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