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Maxammus · Posted: Sat Oct 11, 2008 8:42 am Post subject: OC Build

I'm going to be building my PC in a few days and sell it for a few hundred more a few weeks later, then i'm going to put that money towards an OC/high performance build. The budget would be around $1000.

I'm wondering which CPU and mobo should i get?

Core2duo or core2quad? I'm not a heavy multitasker so the c2q isn't a necessity, the c2d would do fine, which would be more powerful when OCed (I'm thinking i'd be able to OC c2d more since they produce less heat but not 100% sure it'd make much of a difference) and any particular model?

Which chipset should i look for?

Also, since i want this to be really fast i'm wondering how much of a performance boost RAID gives (2 7200rpm drives if i decide to) or if a single 10k/15k RPM drive would be faster?

^^ Thank you in advance.

Sup3R C3r34L · Posted: Sat Oct 11, 2008 9:08 am Post subject:

buying a duo nowadays is retarded.
with i7 coming you might aswel wait for top end quads to drop in price

go for a p45 chipset

idk about RAID setups so i don't know how much difference that would make, but using RAM is faster than reading from HDD so get plenty of good, low latency ram. If you're OCing hard then get some DDR2 1066 4-4-4-12

other good things to look into are:
lapping your cpu/heatsink
watercooling.

Maxammus · Posted: Sat Oct 11, 2008 10:02 am Post subject:

I'm not really looking for top-end quads, q6600(q8200 if q6600 is discontinued when i buy) or something a little higher maybe.

What would you consider 'low' latency? I'm using 5-5-5-15 RAM with a latency of 5 in the one i'm building in a few days, there were only 2 choices that were lower than 5 and they costed 10x more.

As for lapping it seems a little dangerous and i don't think i'd want to go as far as watercooling (yet) ;P.

Sup3R C3r34L · Posted: Sat Oct 11, 2008 10:45 am Post subject:

4-4-4-12 is generally classed as low latency RAM
5-5-5-15 is average but the 4-4-4-12 might need to be loosened to this anyway after a big OC

kls85 · Posted: Sat Oct 11, 2008 11:28 am Post subject:

A WD SATA 3G HDD @7200RPM w/8mb cache goes around 56MB/s.

Take 2 of the same HDD and put it in RAID 0 and it comes out to
around 102MB/s

hcavolsdsadgadsg · Posted: Sat Oct 11, 2008 2:45 pm Post subject:

kls85 · Posted: Sat Oct 11, 2008 3:31 pm Post subject:

hcavolsdsadgadsg · Posted: Sat Oct 11, 2008 3:37 pm Post subject:

There's more to it than that

You wish there was ever going to be a 100% performance gain across the board. Especially in real world scenarios for the regular user, the performance gain does not scale with the cost.

kls85 · Posted: Sat Oct 11, 2008 4:17 pm Post subject:

Humper · Posted: Sat Oct 11, 2008 4:25 pm Post subject:

Ok this is what I say:
If you gonna play games (probebly otherwise you wouldn't be here), you
should buy a C2D, E8X00.

Otherwise a Q6600 is a good choise (they soon stop selling it).
Tho not the best for games cuz of the low support by quads.

i7 you probebly have to wait a half year or more to buy because the prices are fucked up, and very very expensive.

And as they said p45 chipset is kinda good.

And raid 0 works just fine, I got many computers with that.
I havn't tried highspeed discs yet tho.

Regards Humper

Cheetah · Posted: Sun Oct 12, 2008 3:04 am Post subject:

A Q6600 should work just fine.

As far as RAM is concerned, don't waste money on low-latency RAM, just get some standard DDR1066.

For hard drives, stick with a single fast drive. Despite what many enthusiasts like to make themselves think, RAID has no place on the desktop. Modern drives have a more than adequate sustained transfer rate, and seek times are the only thing that will really help further.

rapion124 · Posted: Sun Oct 12, 2008 6:51 am Post subject:

Who would buy a core 2 duo when it's 3 generations behind? The Q6600 is the same price as the E8400, while it offers much better performance in multi-threaded applications. So what if your current games don't use multi-threading? That doesn't mean new games a few months from now won't utilize 4 cores.

Btw, most games aren't bottlenecked by the CPU. Only RTS games will require a lot of processing power, so a better CPU will not give you better frame rates in FPS games.

It's never bad to have more performance, especially for the same price.

Cheetah · Posted: Sun Oct 12, 2008 7:05 am Post subject:

vmanisme · Posted: Sun Oct 12, 2008 8:28 am Post subject:

IF you want to sell the computer you might want to build a quad core and overclock it to 3.0 mhz. ANd i dont really think anybody is going to buy your computer for more than a thousand. I bought my quad-core for only $680 with monitor speakers keyboard and mouse. So you might want to check some princes because you might not be able to sell it.

Sup3R C3r34L · Posted: Sun Oct 12, 2008 8:54 am Post subject: