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PostPosted: Mon May 26, 2008 3:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

So wat is right?
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PostPosted: Mon May 26, 2008 10:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dr Evil wrote:
technically, its impossible to have nothing.


because by having nothing, you do have something, you have nothing.


therefore, the universe was forced to exist out of nothingness

try imagining a universe with nothing.

you'd probly think some blank thing, well that thing is something.

therefore, nothing = something.


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No, nothing is nothing
and something is something

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PostPosted: Mon May 26, 2008 11:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

the space is nothing
because the nothing is the absense of materia and thats exactly what the space is
the space is the absence of materia , even air
in the space there is no air, absolutely no materia and the things inside the universe are materia , planets, stars, blah blah blah . the other "black thing called space " is the absence of it , also absence of light thats why the color black. so actually the space is the nothing and the materia is the something
in the beggining of the universe there was a something but the thing that noone knows is how that something evolved to the something nowdays called world.
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PostPosted: Mon May 26, 2008 11:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

For the fact that we can't even comprehend what they mean by "space is endless" I highly doubt that we can even describe how it works. All of you say that space is nothing, well thats impossible because we can see it, if it was nothing how can we see it?
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PostPosted: Tue May 27, 2008 2:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

gogodr wrote:
the space is nothing
because the nothing is the absense of materia and thats exactly what the space is
the space is the absence of materia , even air
in the space there is no air, absolutely no materia and the things inside the universe are materia , planets, stars, blah blah blah . the other "black thing called space " is the absence of it , also absence of light thats why the color black. so actually the space is the nothing and the materia is the something
in the beggining of the universe there was a something but the thing that noone knows is how that something evolved to the something nowdays called world.

No.


"space" = dark matter/dark matter energy.


and obviously there is matter in space, or else we wouldnt be here~

and dont say we arnt in space, because that is just plain stupid.....

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PostPosted: Tue May 27, 2008 2:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Everything existing has a anti part of it
Like

White - Black
Day- Night
Wet-Dry
etc...

Engery - Anti energy or something... black holes are made of it.
So something-nothing

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PostPosted: Tue May 27, 2008 3:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Funny how everybody comes up with these 'facts' x)
Those are all 'theories', not 'facts' (well, most of them are ofcourse).

The basic fact is... we don't know.

Kwantumfysics (the one we learn) can't explain it yet, because it has such complexity.

Thus the correct response to the question "Why could the phenomenon called "The Big Bang" occur in a momentum without any matter?" would be: "Idk"
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PostPosted: Tue May 27, 2008 4:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Zason -> say that you can see the space is the equivalent of saying that you can see the complete darkness (( absense of any light ))

Dr Evil->"space" = dark matter/dark matter energy.
I dont get that thing
but with this theory , that well its a theory since noone can have real facts of what the space is and how all started
the theory I'm posting here is of the darkness as the absense of light turned into energy and absence of it on the space
and based with the E = m c^2
you say energy = materia * velocity of light^2
say , the space , take the materia or the energy both of them are equal to 0 because if in the space there is no materia , then there is no energy and that generates de empty that is the space. now , materia can be inside the space because space is nothing and all at same time , because we are surrounded by nothing and that makes sense if you think so , thats why materia just floats around in space, because there is no energy and nothing that can alter the materia inside the space.
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PostPosted: Tue May 27, 2008 4:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hence why it is up for discussion. And nothing is something, nothing acts as the absence of the something. Strangely that forms a paradox, however it is the truth.
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PostPosted: Tue May 27, 2008 4:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Aviar wrote:
Hence why it is up for discussion. And nothing is something, nothing acts as the absence of the something. Strangely that forms a paradox, however it is the truth.

but how nothing is something if it is the absense of something , thats not a paradox , thats is a contradiction
the paradox is how the somethings act on that nothing because nothing is the absence of a something but if you put a something in that nothing , the nothing doesnt turn int o a something because taking the space as a nothing , the space is infinite and in consecuence you cant fill up it with a something.
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PostPosted: Tue May 27, 2008 4:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

space isnt the absence of light.


If it was, then how come we can clearly stars and light~?

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the only reason you dont see light in actual space is because there is no physical matter for the light to bounce off from.

hence its dark~

thats all, but light can easily pass through it, and it can be bounce off from the .4% of actual physical matter. (stars, planets, etc....)

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PostPosted: Tue May 27, 2008 4:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

stars make their own light and we can see them through the space and thats not a theory.
If you see the space not aiming to a source of light you will see just the nothing or at least the nothing until the range of vision because the space is infinite and you dont know if there is really a limit of stars
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PostPosted: Tue May 27, 2008 5:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

gogodr wrote:
stars make their own light and we can see them through the space and thats not a theory.
If you see the space not aiming to a source of light you will see just the nothing or at least the nothing until the range of vision because the space is infinite and you dont know if there is really a limit of stars


omgoshhhhhhhhhhhhhh

are you dumb?


if you can see anything in space, then it obviously isnt the absence of light, dumb dumb.

absence of light would mean there is NO ABSOLUTE light.

which is obviously false.

Reason:

Yay for stars emitting light and being able to see it~

PS:
Stars + Planets = part of space~

of course you dont see anything, theres nothing to reflect the light, only dust, gasses, planets, stars, etc can reflect that light.
but it doesnt mean that light cant travel through it, therefore, there is light, thers just only a small percentage of matter to reflect it.



absence of light = black holes ftw!?

but sadly, the universe isnt one giant black hole ._.

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PostPosted: Tue May 27, 2008 5:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote




look this and then read


dont take the space as materia, it is the absence of it, wich means that space its nothing but the everything arround the materia (( everything except that materia ))
the space is not a solid , its not materia so we can see through it, it is the absence of light but not the obstruction of it , with means that light can move in the space , but it doesn't belongs the space.
thats why the darkness of the space.

stars and planets are not part of the space , starts and planets are inside the space its like saying that you jump into a pool and then you say " omg yayness I became water becasue I'm in it "
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PostPosted: Tue May 27, 2008 5:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

gogodr wrote:



look this and then read


dont take the space as materia, it is the absence of it, wich means that space its nothing but the everything arround the materia (( everything except that materia ))
the space is not a solid , its not materia so we can see through it, it is the absence of light but not the obstruction of it , with means that light can move in the space , but it doesn't belongs the space.
thats why the darkness of the space.

stars and planets are not part of the space , starts and planets are inside the space its like saying that you jump into a pool and then you say " omg yayness I became water becasue I'm in it "


wowowowowowowowo
>.>

you gotta b dumb~


so what you are saying is that light just magically gets to matter without traveling through space?

space is freaking dark because there is little matter to reflect the light.
what little amount of matter that there is, reflects the light.

simple as that.

if space was absolute darkness, then nothing would have light.

simply for the fact that you are in space.

like i stated before, dark holes = absolute darkness, no light is emmited, only absorved/destroyed/whatever. it is perfectly black. a true absence of light.


space on the other hand, can have light.


gosh....


and yes, light belongs in space~

and if stars and planet arnt part of space, then what the fuck they b part of?


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