Cheat Engine

Michaelc · Cheater Reputation: 0 Joined: 15 May 2016 Posts: 47

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I tried saving a .ptr and recan a 2nd time with the new addresses found with value scanning, yet no matter how many times I try, I can't get a match between 2 restarts of the game and cheat engine!

Is it possible that the rescanning could have left some pointers out?
Does there have to be matches, always, if nothing went wrong?
Is there a way to find the pointers aside from this and manual tracing as seen in the tutorials?

Dark Byte · Posted: Fri May 20, 2016 5:57 pm Post subject:

it depends on the game and how it loads things.
Do you scan from a same location? (e.g some pointers only work when inside a specific menu)

If it's java, a browser game, an emulator, or something similar, then chances are a pointer just isn't going to work

And try a higher structuresize and/or level

You could upload one or more scandata (pointermap) files from two different restarts and then let some people scan here in a group

ParkourPenguin · Posted: Fri May 20, 2016 6:06 pm Post subject:

No pointerscan you do is guaranteed to be all-encompassing. Some tips:

Increase your max level and/or max offset; 5 / 2047 isn't a lot nowadays.
Assuming you have the RAM, generate a few pointermaps and use them, it'll give you more reliable pointers faster.
You're scanning under the assumption you already know the last offset. The game could be using a different last offset even if it looks like it's not.
You can try including pointers with read-only nodes, but I don't think I've seen that many games use that.
Increase the stack addresses being treated as static addresses.

Michaelc · Cheater Reputation: 0 Joined: 15 May 2016 Posts: 47

trying that.

is there a way around having to find the right pointer address?

injection?

sorry for repeating the question, i am just green

ParkourPenguin · Posted: Fri May 20, 2016 6:28 pm Post subject:

Sure. If you can find an instruction that only access that address (or some other address in the same structure) relatively often, then you can use one of the code injection templates and copy the address to some registered symbol. See the "injection copies" section of this topic.

Michaelc · Cheater Reputation: 0 Joined: 15 May 2016 Posts: 47

Sorry but, what is a structure? How do I see such a thing?

Hex editor?

ParkourPenguin · Posted: Fri May 20, 2016 9:43 pm Post subject:

It's just a group of data. You can look at it in the memory viewer, or via the structure dissector.
https://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/9dbwhz68.aspx
http://forum.cheatengine.org/viewtopic.php?t=530548

Michaelc · Cheater Reputation: 0 Joined: 15 May 2016 Posts: 47

would you say 5000 for offset and 8 lvls of pointer to be an overkill?

thx!

Dark Byte · Posted: Sun May 22, 2016 5:14 pm Post subject:

nope, that's a normal amount

Michaelc · Cheater Reputation: 0 Joined: 15 May 2016 Posts: 47

how about 50000 offset and 30 lvls?

my other play left is to crease those 2 numbers to find my pointers.
Is there another way?

Thx!

++METHOS · Posted: Sun May 22, 2016 8:25 pm Post subject:

As previously explained here:

Michaelc · Cheater Reputation: 0 Joined: 15 May 2016 Posts: 47

ya i am positive the value is with my end. my characters coordinates, easily viewed in game screen, as well my avatar's direction.

Also I just wanted to know what the values is at all times, not to modify it.

++METHOS · Posted: Mon May 23, 2016 4:08 pm Post subject:

Can you modify the values and do the modifications stick?

If so, you can use injection and save yourself the hassle of scanning for pointers.

Michaelc · Cheater Reputation: 0 Joined: 15 May 2016 Posts: 47

no it doesn't work that way in this case, as my targeted value is my xy and i just want to always know my position and i am not trying to teleport!

++METHOS · Posted: Mon May 23, 2016 7:41 pm Post subject:

In that case, you should still be able to use injection, unless injection is not an option for this particular target.

Right-click on one of the coordinate values in your cheat table and check to see what accesses it. In the new debugger window, right-click on an empty, white space and click 'check if found opcodes...' and return to the game, if possible, and play for a bit. If you see any of the instructions constantly being accessed, but show (1) next to the count, then you can use that for your injection point without having to incorporate any filters.

Once you have that information, right-click again on an empty space and uncheck the 'check if found opcodes...' and click stop in the debugger window. Highlight the desired instruction and click on the button that says 'show in disassembler'. In memory viewer, with the instruction highlighted, select 'Tools' from the drop-down menu. Click on 'Auto Assemble'. In the auto assemble window, click on 'Template' and select 'AOB Injection'. Click okay, name your script and click okay again. Click on 'File' from the drop-down menu...select 'Assign to current cheat table'.

With that information, if you're not sure about how to proceed, you can paste your script here and I can help you create a script that will allow to see your coordinate values.

By the way, is the game 2D, only having XY coordinates? Are the coordinates 4 bytes apart?

Thanks.