Cheat Engine

matteo32 · How do I cheat? Reputation: 0 Joined: 19 Sep 2014 Posts: 4

Hi everyone, I completed the first 5 steps of the cheat engine tutorial and learned how to find values like money or other useful numbers in game. I don't want to be the ultimate cheat engine master, I learned just what's useful for my purposes.
So I tried the technques explained but it seems that those don't work the same for every game. For example I have a recent game called "To end all wars", I tried and failed to find the way to cheat money. The number is a simple three digit number like 800,827,856 etc.
I tried all types of scans (float, double, 4,2,8 bytes, unknown initial value, truncated, rounded) but it seems that the number is hidden or needs a special formula I don't really know how to say that Confused

. In other games a simple 4 byte scan, searching the exact number, can solve my problem, but I noticed that doesn't work with every game around.
How can I recognize that a number needs a "special treatment" instead of a simple 4 byte scan, or float or anything else?

Thank you for reply, I hope you can help me Very Happy

Geri · Moderator Reputation: 111 Joined: 05 Feb 2010 Posts: 5636

If you have completed the first 5 steps, then you know how to scan for unknown values. Try increased/decreased searches and if that doesn't work either, try changed/unchanged search. You can never know that the number that is displayed is stored exactly that way in the memory too.

matteo32 · How do I cheat? Reputation: 0 Joined: 19 Sep 2014 Posts: 4

Geri · Moderator Reputation: 111 Joined: 05 Feb 2010 Posts: 5636

I don't know this game at all, so I can't tell you what to do specifically.

But if you can decrease the value by buying some stuff, try that too, don't just search for increasing values all the time. Also use the "unchanged" filter when the money is not changing, to filter out a lot of garbage.

Searching for decreasing values is usually easier, there are fewer results.

matteo32 · How do I cheat? Reputation: 0 Joined: 19 Sep 2014 Posts: 4

Sohail__Saha · Posted: Sat Sep 20, 2014 4:29 am Post subject:

You said that the money value changes after each turn. So, I guess the address of the value also changes. That means none of the addresses that you have got on the first scan will be the address in the second turn. In that case, set data type as 'All' and scan. Then go back to the game. If you have paused the game, unpause it. Then turn off your monitor for 10 minutes. Then, do the scan for the second type for an unchanged value. Repeat these steps until you get just one value. Then, find the pointer of the address using pointer scanner. A good video tutorial to use pointer scanner is given by Chase Payne here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U5lCPKeV2t0
All these may take a long time, but this WILL WORK.
Also, highlight the 'CopyOnWrite' option and uncheck the 'Writable' option.

matteo32 · How do I cheat? Reputation: 0 Joined: 19 Sep 2014 Posts: 4

Geri · Moderator Reputation: 111 Joined: 05 Feb 2010 Posts: 5636

Sohail__Saha · Posted: Sun Sep 21, 2014 5:24 am Post subject:

@Geri Yeah, but still, it is better not to take chances when there is a better option available.

@matteo32 You have to turn off your monitor for 10 minutes because if you keep your computer idle for 10 minutes (which is required to filter the unwanted addresses by 'unchanged value' search) with the monitor on, it will be a waste of electricity, isn't it?? Try what I have told and then reply...

Geri · Moderator Reputation: 111 Joined: 05 Feb 2010 Posts: 5636

It's much more likely that he can find the value with simple increased/decreased or changed/unchanged searches. Using XOR encryption for example is a common method, but changed/unchanged search can deal with it.

Sohail__Saha · Posted: Mon Sep 22, 2014 5:08 am Post subject:

@Geri That's what I recommended.

Geri · Moderator Reputation: 111 Joined: 05 Feb 2010 Posts: 5636

Yes, but in that case, the address is not changing and the method is different.

If the address is really changing anyway, there is no guarantee that it will change only when he is hitting the next turn. It could be as might as well changed in every 10 seconds or anything similar. This is very rare and to find a value like that, you probably need more advanced methods than simple scanning.

Sohail__Saha · Posted: Mon Sep 22, 2014 1:06 pm Post subject:

@Geri Yeah, it is better to start with simple methods and then to move on to complex methods.

@matteo32 Did you try??

Varus · Posted: Tue Mar 15, 2016 10:52 am Post subject:

ok i hope you guys are still around. i usually dont have problems figuring out values in games but in this game i cant find shit.
type, initial unknown value or anything else doesnt work with this game and i dont get why Evil or Very Mad

it should work but it doesnt... any guesses or help?

peddroelm · Posted: Tue Mar 15, 2016 11:35 am Post subject: