Cheat Engine

PvtVain · Guest

Okay, so first off. The main use I get out of CE right now is Dark Souls II, however that is not of the main topic.

In Dark Souls II, I am constantly alt-tabbing (Playing in windowed, so I don't have to minimize constantly.) turning on scripts, or changing values, etc. And that doesn't sound like an issue at all right?

Well, here is the deal. Every so often, which it has been happening quite a lot recently, is this really odd bug. I can't really explain the process of how I get it to happen because it is kinda random.

But what it does essentially is, after a shit ton of time manually enabling scripts, double clicking to change values, double clicking anything in the address area, etc. Just doing stuff, CE likes to break all functionality with my PC.

The biggest problem, is my mouse doesn't seem to register with anything, however in-game it works perfectly fine. So it seems like, something fucks up down the line and suddenly nothing works. This is bad enough to the point where I have to hard boot my PC and I really don't like doing that. And I'd like to keep using CE, but I literally cannot figure out how to fix this problem. And It is really fucking annoying.

- And to note, I've manually (albeit painfully) ended the cheatengine process, and that doesn't fix it. I've tried ending the games process, still nothing. Tried shutting down both of them and still nothing. And finally, I even tried restarting my explorer process. But in the end, it didn't work either, forcing me to hard boot my PC as explained a few moments ago.

TL:DR - CE breaks my computer by doing too much things and I can't figure out how to prevent it.

PvtVain · Guest

Seriously no one has a solution?

Geri · Moderator Reputation: 111 Joined: 05 Feb 2010 Posts: 5636

CE will normally not break just because you do lots of stuff. It's much more likely that the cheat itself or the game is doing it. Unless you can reproduce the problem with another cheat table and another process.

PvtVain · Guest

Geri · Moderator Reputation: 111 Joined: 05 Feb 2010 Posts: 5636

Unless Dark Byte has a clue about what's causing this, he will probably need more info for a bugreport. OS (32-bit or 64-bit is important) and how to reproduce the problem (if he can). Eg you said that you use scripts and change values, but those are 2 different functions, so you need to check them one by one. If any of those scripts are using the debugger, it's also important. So just try to break it down to a step by step procedure to see if it can be reproduced.

And it's also worth to check both the 32-bit and 64-bit version of CE, to see if both of them has the same problem.

Dark Byte · Posted: Tue Sep 09, 2014 5:06 am Post subject:

Is your system overclocked? CE tends to use features overclock stability tests do not test for(debugging features of the cpu), and sometimes that causes issues

What kind of graphics card do you have?
Is the latest driver installed?
Processor?
Which windows version? All patches applied?
Is it a legal version (just asking since there are a few not so legal windows versions out there with embedded rootkits and ce is one of the few things that can see and mess with them)

PvtVain · Guest

Dark Byte · Posted: Fri Sep 12, 2014 7:05 pm Post subject:

Are you using CE 6.4 ? (In 6.3 and earlier CE's 64-bit version doesn't work well when something injects DLL's into it, like gui shell extension)

Try running the 32-bit version of CE only and see if that makes a difference

PvtVain · Guest

STN · Posted: Sun Sep 14, 2014 9:39 am Post subject:

If it is just specific to DS2 then its probably because the new versions of ds2 have added this weird anti-cheat that crashes the game with alt+tabs at random points in game. Using a cheat table and constantly alt+tabbing i guess that could cause the weird bug to happen if not crash.

What you are experiencing though i have seen it happen when i am debugging games but it does resolve itself when you close the game or alt+tab or windows+d a few times and you get the mouse back.

Also if you have some mods installed for windows that could interfere and cause the issue. I don't really think its an issue with Cheat engine but something with your gfx card or other programs you installed on your windows. If you have an antivirus installed that is more than likely the culprit because AVs block a lot of normal function without letting you know.

If you can, make a fresh install of windows without installing anything else and then see if this happens. You can do it in a VM for testing.

PvtVain · Guest

Okay so, did some more testing and even installed CE 6.3. And It looks like Dark Souls II is the problem here. It kinda isn't surprising considering how badly this game is made. Oh well, guess this thread can go be deleted or locked since I've found the issue really.